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Re: Miscellanea: The War in Iran

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Post by donkeybeer »

theonething wrote: post #972
donkeybeer wrote: post #964

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The King David Hotel bombing wasn't started by arabs, it occurred much before the 48 date you have given. Its clear who started shit. I wasn't talking about Netanyahu coming from Irgun but two other past prime ministers. >From the river to the sea Its very pleasing you quoted this slogan. And you accuse me of being biased? Do you know which Israeli political party's slogan this is? Tell me, is this fake news: https:/…

> The King David Hotel bombing wasn't started by arabs, it occurred much before the 48 date you have given. Its clear who started shit. So you're saying since it was the Irgun that bombed the Hotel, it's the Jews who started the Arab Israeli conflict. Dude, get your facts straight. The 1946 Hotel bombing was against the British, not the Arabs. British administrative headquarters were housed in the Hotel and that was…

>So you're saying since it was the Irgun that bombed the Hotel, it's the Jews who started the Arab Israeli conflict.

Hamas killed a few Israelis, that was perfectly fine reasoning for starting a genocidal military campaign against Palestine as a whole so I am not sure why that argument is a problem for you. Iran hasn't even directly attacked Israel the first shot, and they got invaded. So I don't see a problem if Irgun were a jewish milita, to say israel/jews started it.

Re: Miscellanea: The War in Iran

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Post by donkeybeer »

theonething wrote: post #972
donkeybeer wrote: post #964

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The King David Hotel bombing wasn't started by arabs, it occurred much before the 48 date you have given. Its clear who started shit. I wasn't talking about Netanyahu coming from Irgun but two other past prime ministers. >From the river to the sea Its very pleasing you quoted this slogan. And you accuse me of being biased? Do you know which Israeli political party's slogan this is? Tell me, is this fake news: https:/…

> The King David Hotel bombing wasn't started by arabs, it occurred much before the 48 date you have given. Its clear who started shit. So you're saying since it was the Irgun that bombed the Hotel, it's the Jews who started the Arab Israeli conflict. Dude, get your facts straight. The 1946 Hotel bombing was against the British, not the Arabs. British administrative headquarters were housed in the Hotel and that was…

Does Israel have anything named Geoffrey Morton road or any placques or monuments to this hero?

Re: Miscellanea: The War in Iran

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Post by donkeybeer »

theonething wrote: post #972
donkeybeer wrote: post #964

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The King David Hotel bombing wasn't started by arabs, it occurred much before the 48 date you have given. Its clear who started shit. I wasn't talking about Netanyahu coming from Irgun but two other past prime ministers. >From the river to the sea Its very pleasing you quoted this slogan. And you accuse me of being biased? Do you know which Israeli political party's slogan this is? Tell me, is this fake news: https:/…

> The King David Hotel bombing wasn't started by arabs, it occurred much before the 48 date you have given. Its clear who started shit. So you're saying since it was the Irgun that bombed the Hotel, it's the Jews who started the Arab Israeli conflict. Dude, get your facts straight. The 1946 Hotel bombing was against the British, not the Arabs. British administrative headquarters were housed in the Hotel and that was…

>Today, 75% of Palestinians support the murder, rape and kidnapping of festival attendees, families and children. That plainly shows what kind of people they are and why Israel needs to defend itself.

That's a theory, israelis cheering snd celebrating the release of rapsists is well documented fact.

Re: Miscellanea: The War in Iran

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Post by donkeybeer »

theonething wrote: post #972
donkeybeer wrote: post #964

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The King David Hotel bombing wasn't started by arabs, it occurred much before the 48 date you have given. Its clear who started shit. I wasn't talking about Netanyahu coming from Irgun but two other past prime ministers. >From the river to the sea Its very pleasing you quoted this slogan. And you accuse me of being biased? Do you know which Israeli political party's slogan this is? Tell me, is this fake news: https:/…

> The King David Hotel bombing wasn't started by arabs, it occurred much before the 48 date you have given. Its clear who started shit. So you're saying since it was the Irgun that bombed the Hotel, it's the Jews who started the Arab Israeli conflict. Dude, get your facts straight. The 1946 Hotel bombing was against the British, not the Arabs. British administrative headquarters were housed in the Hotel and that was…

Do you consider the current Israeli government far right? What do Israelis think of Bibi? Beacause you said I cited some fsr.right figures and projected thrm onto the entirety of Israel. If so enough Israelis are "far right" that they voted for one such figure.

To show I am mot being racist, I am happy to use the same standards for the USA and Trump.

Re: Miscellanea: The War in Iran

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Post by donkeybeer »

YZF wrote: post #935
donkeybeer wrote: post #929

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No that's complete nonsense. In today's era actual antisemites won't need guesswork to locate, they'd openly vomit out a salad of zog, greedy bastards, traitors, that 109 country bs, holocaust denialism, etc etc. AIPAC for example has made the calculation that accusing moderate non-racists of antisemitism is much more effective than doing anything about actual hardcore antisemites whom they ignore. Actions like this…

Arabic countries barely tolerated Jews as second class citizens under Islamic rule. That is the truth. What you're regurgitating here is the nonsense. If life was so great for the Jews under Arabic rulers where are the communities of Syria, Lebanon, Egypt, Jordan, Iraq? How many Jews are left in those places? Zero. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism_in_the_Arab_world barely touches this topic. Jews living in…

And arabs were bad compared to whom? Do you support toplling statues of Lincoln because he was bad person by modern standards? If arabs were bad to jews, how were Christians behaving to jews back then? It is neither an arab nor a muslim country that Holocausted jews.

Re: Miscellanea: The War in Iran

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Post by donkeybeer »

theonething wrote: post #973
donkeybeer wrote: post #965

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>When you have a group who's ideological goal has always been to exterminate the Jewish people and Israel, Israel must defend itself. The locals didn't particularly give a shit about israel or jews until European jews began forcibly displacing them en masse. Jews lived there for centuries, sometimes treated better sometimes worse than Christians in Europe treated them.

> European jews began forcibly displacing them en masse You'll need to support your claims with evidence or else they are just worthless. The fact is Arabs were not willing compromise on a two state solution that Jewish Agency agreed to. (Balfour Declaration and the UN Partition Plan for Palestine). The fact is currently, the majority of Palestinians want Israel exterminated. They still will not compromise with a two…

Why would anyone want to compromise against foreigners who illegally took over their lands? Its very simple, show me where the grandparents etc upto 3-4 generations ago of Israelis lived. And if they weren't in the geographical Israel did they come here peacefully or as a British project and later forcing the Brits to give up even more to these ingrates?

Re: Miscellanea: The War in Iran

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Post by Arnt »

robocat wrote: post #492
andriy_koval wrote: post #453

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Its harder. 20% of Russians(my estimate) have connections to Ukraine (relatives, friends, or were born there) and could be Ukrainian agents, there are lots of land routes how you can smuggle stuff. Things are not as well connected between Iran and US.

Agents in the US would just be normal citizens asking for money/crypto. You'd need to find fools to deceive, but a lot of people fall for scams to get small gains. Many hard drug users in particular are often rather self centered in my limited experience. Or if you wanted to attack refineries, you could possibly select some climate change activists to do it for you? Or find angry children to do it. Make things go ban…

It seems to me that there a large and well-established drug smuggling industry that might be quite interested in Iranian drone technology and has long-established logistics competence regarding transport into the US from distant countries. (I searched for 'fentanyl precursors' now, some search results named very distant sources.)

Re: Miscellanea: The War in Iran

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Post by arrrg »

AYBABTME wrote: post #665

I think this analysis is missing the big picture. (1) reducing oil shipments to China is good posturing for the US; hence Venezuela and Iran ahead of 2028. These are shaping operations. China suffers more from these conflicts than the US. (2) Iran isn't the only one who can control passage throught the strait. All gulf countries can do so. If Iran can cheaply cut off passage, so can Saudi Arabia and UAE and everyone…

It seems unlikely to me that this conspiracy (conducting a war intent on closing the strait while communicating something else) is anything more than a post-hoc rationalization.

Obviously all actions the US takes have knock on effects elsewhere but those effects tend to become quite unpredictable and also weaker the further you are away from the place where the action happens.

We could talk for days about the knock on effects of the Iran war and sort through them and how all the different actors in the world will react and whether that’s on balance good or bad for the US … but it’s all a bit cute, right?

Re: Miscellanea: The War in Iran

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Post by DoctorOetker »

don_esteban wrote: post #975
DoctorOetker wrote: post #970

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Right, but those are realistic engineering considerations. Nowhere in your message do you describe light-speed motorcycles. You didn't arrive at this conclusion thanks to a light-speed motorcycle thought exercise...

I was not talking about light-speed motorcycles. That was an artifact of imperfect war simulation. The relevant concept is undetectable (by electronic surveilance) communication usable for tactical warfighting. Real life motorcycle messengers are a partial (detectable, high-latency) solutions for which there are currently (not at the time of that war exercise) better options (e.g. the one I presented). You can nitpic…

both in Ukraine and elsewhere there is the fiber optic challenge.

shouldn't it be possible to lock-in amplify imagery of known fluorescent centers in the main types of fiber optic?:

flash/flood the scene with appropriate stimulation wavelength for suitable fluorescent center, take a picture (and observe the emission wavelength), then take the same picture without the flash, repeat this N times and add all the ones with the flash present and subtract all the frames without so one can observe the exact paths of the optic cables...

It seems one could mass produce a cheap detection and imaging platform that can aid cutting all the umbilical cords cost-effectively.

Re: Miscellanea: The War in Iran

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Post by mememememememo »

mememememememo wrote: post #776
Animats wrote: post #585

The war should be over by March 31st. Netanyahu has a deadline. He is facing a snap election. If the Knesset doesn't pass a budget by March 31st, Israel votes 90 days later, and Netanyahu is not expected to win. Worse for Netanyahu, he's on trial for corruption charges, and once he's out of office, he's probably headed for jail. The war was intended to give Netanyahu's popularity a boost, but that did not work out. […

Iran, got that? 31st March. Add it to your Google Calendar.

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