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Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Post by mustyoshi »

20after4 wrote: post #944
josephcsible wrote: post #940

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> There is no evidence this is happening in any widespread fashion. Isn't the point of this data so that they can uncover exactly that? It'd be silly to say you're not allowed to look for evidence of anything unless you already have evidence of it. Also, the qualifier "in any widespread fashion" is weasel words. It makes me think you already know it is happening, and the only remaining question is to what scale.

How exactly would non-citizens, who do not have social security numbers or other valid identifying documents, receive medicaid? It's difficult enough for qualified people to get it. It would seem fairly difficult to pass the registration process without having a valid SSN. Furthermore, if someone was able to fraudulently sign up - say by using a stolen identity, then wouldn't the data in the system look valid and the…

There are provisions in federal law which allow non citizens to receive federal Medicaid dollars in some circumstances.

Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Post by Aurornis »

orochimaaru wrote: post #825

I didn’t get the article completely. Is ICE using Medicaid data to identify citizens or is it using it to identify people not legally in the country? Medicaid is meant to be used only by citizens and green card holders who are eligible to be citizens.

I’m also confused. I think the Medicaid data might just be one additional source they’ve added to a data lake style system, which they pull from for some reporting based on address?

So if ICE puts your address into their computer, they get to see something about the people inside. How much do they see? Do they get to see your medical conditions too? Could a creatively inclined person get an LLM to read medical data out of it? Who knows, there’s no transparency for this sharing.

Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Post by Aurornis »

tehwebguy wrote: post #599
rcpt wrote: post #3

Wishful thinking but it would be real great if a future leader destroyed this infrastructure. I'm sure they'll run on not using it but when systems like this exist they tend to find applications

The “opposition” has never not funded ICE. Throwing out national level republicans is not enough, almost all national level democrats have to be thrown out too.

> The “opposition” has never not funded ICE.

The current administration’s ICE chaos theater is clearly something very different than the past few administrations. Let’s not try to pretend this is normal, because it’s not. They’re doing a shock and awe campaign and maximum fear and news coverage are part of the new agenda.

Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Post by Fischgericht »

And still there are people here using Twittler for communication. Who drive Swasticars. Who applaud AntichrisThiel. RapisTrump from the parts of Germany known to grow Potatoes in the soil and in the minds.

It's a pity our American friends haven't noticed that while yes, indeed, the worst of the worst scum got sent to the US. It is just that you had set your brain UI theme to dark mode, and did not notice that the threat isn't that kid with brown skin getting sent to concentration camp by your Gestapo, but those "we want immigrants that look like they are from Norway" folks. 1)

In the distant past, you US Americans still had libraries. You could have used them to find out what there is a reason we over here in Europe and Africa did not want the Trunps and Thiels and Musks and Karps. 2)

For those who are reading this from inside the US: At what point if EVER are you going to get out of your chair, use your second amendment rights, and get rid of your crazy fascist brainworm Nazi scum that you had been praying to?

I know. It is too much to ask for. OK OK. Outside of your comfort zone to fight back. Then go watch MELANIA, a documentation on how about rape and abuse and illegal immigration is totally fine as long as your skin has the right color and the boob job was done well.

1) I myself am German, male, straight, blonde hair. I am allowed to say that our type is the cancer of the human race. After all these hundreds of years, you STILL haven't understood you can not trust us?

2) I know Karp is not from Germany. But he wrote his doctoral thesis in Germany, and it can be summarized as "I am a totally crazy asshole and want to cause as much pain and suffering as possible onto humanity, can I please do that kthxbye?"

Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Post by tomhow »

titzer wrote: post #976

Something seems to have gone wrong with the timestamps on comments on this thread. At present nearly all comments have been posted < 4 min ago. I know I'm slowing down as I get older, but I don't think the internet is jabbering that fast, is it?

Yes, sorry, that was a keyboard error on my part as I'm working very late at night to deal with a follow-up/duplicate thread about this topic that hit the front page. We'll restore all the correct timestamps in due course. I'm manually doing the top level ones now.

Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Post by alphawhisky »

starkeeper wrote: post #303

Medicaide data is pretty much covered by HIPPA. So Evil. Also it seems like it is too late, even if a court says do not do it, they will anyway and get away with it since the supreme court rules the president is allowed to break the law. HELP I AM SOOOO F**NG ANGRY. Sorry I just don't have anywhere to safely put this rage.

Build yourself and your community up. We're all mad. We all want to see justice. Don't despair.

Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Post by titzer »

tomhow wrote: post #985
titzer wrote: post #976

Something seems to have gone wrong with the timestamps on comments on this thread. At present nearly all comments have been posted < 4 min ago. I know I'm slowing down as I get older, but I don't think the internet is jabbering that fast, is it?

Yes, sorry, that was a keyboard error on my part as I'm working very late at night to deal with a follow-up/duplicate thread about this topic that hit the front page. We'll restore all the correct timestamps in due course. I'm manually doing the top level ones now.

Thanks!

Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Post by text0404 »

philipallstar wrote: post #970
acdha wrote: post #444

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I meant that they get to choose whether and when they have children, and can have full careers. Think about it in terms of opportunity cost: much over a century ago, women were expected to marry and be wives with a handful of exceptions like religious service. They did not have many opportunities for education and there were limited opportunities for independent employment with entire professions off-limits. When tho…

> much over a century ago, women were expected to marry and be wives with a handful of exceptions like religious service. They did not have many opportunities for education and there were limited opportunities for independent employment with entire professions off-limits This was the case for most men as well, except they sometimes had to go and die weeping and in pain in a foreign field rather than stay at home and…

... and we should improve those conditions for both men and women so that they can live fulfilling lives. Your whole argument is predicated on the "redpilled" idea that gender rights are zero-sum, and that's just not the case.

Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Post by SpaceNoodled »

trimethylpurine wrote: post #727
brendoelfrendo wrote: post #571

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That assumes that the people who enforce the law want good people to be police officers, and that has never been the case. It is certainly not the case with our current ICE officers.

It doesn't assume anything. It's literally what's happening right now. All of your neighbors don't want to steal all of your stuff. Think about the fact that this is only true in certain places, regardless of what laws exist. Laws have very little effect on criminal behavior. Your peers being cool people are all that really protects your safety and your property.

Sounds like the solution to crime is therefore to mitigate the factors that precipitate it. If people steal in order to meet their basic needs, then providing basic housing and medical care to all should see a reduction in crime.
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