One thing I would add to this site is to avoid seed oils like the plague. PUFA is in almost everything that is processed, and it absolutely wrecks havoc on your metabolism.
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#982Unfortunately there seems to be no good aligned definition of what (highly) processed food is. 1,2 Whole grain bread or infant formula can be “highly processed” despite very healthy. In the end someone else cooks for you and packages it. They can cook healthy or not or in between, add a lot of salt or little, .. as always it’s more complex. 1: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41430-022-01099-1 2 https://www.cambridge…
I think "highly processed foods are bad" is best seen as a general rule and no more than that. However, it is a good general rule and following it is probably the easiest way for people to eat healthy. In general, the more processing steps involved, the more things companies can do to make the food more delicious, cheaper to produce, etc., at the expense of customers' health. There is also a significant correlation b…
Totally there’s correlation, and to some extent causality. And it’s mostly right. But it’s also wrong. You can pick healthy packaged food in the supermarket. Durability doesn’t require additives in many cases.
Mainly, it will be very hard to change the cooking habits of people in this sense. Chopping your own vegetables is much harder than buying the right (processed) food that doesn’t change anything else about your habits. It sounds super “free” - I doubt it will have large scale impact on the US average diet. Better regulate your food.
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#983One thing I would add to this site is to avoid seed oils like the plague. PUFA is in almost everything that is processed, and it absolutely wrecks havoc on your metabolism.
There is no scientific evidence for this
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#984I thought America has fallen and nothing has to be expected then bullshit from the government. And now they want there citizens to eat healthy? Whats next? Asking to use renewables to save the earth?
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#986Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Nor do I understand the negative reactions to new restrictions on SNAP - candy and sugary drinks are no longer eligible The issue is that "Ultra-Processed" does not mean "candy and sugary drinks" and even "sugary drinks" is overly broad. Can SNAP pay for sugar-free Coke but not classic coke? What about Gatorade? SNAP already had reasonable restrictions. This very much feels like a "middle management style" project.…
Sugar free coke is not as bad as sugar-ful Coke but it's still bad. Many of the cheap sweeteners have been linked to cancer. They still fuck with the brain and hormones and make you want salty foods and/or more sweet tasting things. So yea, how about drinking water as your primary source of hydration? If you are poor, the last thing you need is Diabetes, Cancer, Hypertension, Cardiovascular disease, etc. The problem…
"Linked" to cancer at outrageous consumption levels. No artificial sweetener on the market is remotely as dangerous as sugar. Risk should never be examined in isolation, but only in comparison with the alternatives.
And where is the evidence of widespread fraud? The MAGA crowd keep pretending everything government is full of fraud, but they keep faring abysmally at finding said fraud. The problem is not fraud, but wasted effort. Most things government involve a lot of duplication of effort because everyone wants a piece of the pie. And all too often they spend a dollar to save a dime. A pair of examples illustrates the problem:
1) My wife tried to buy what turned out to be a 31 pound watermelon. Oops, has to be weighed on a properly certified scale to be allowed to sell it--and every such scale they have only goes to 30 pounds. Once the problem was identified the manager proposed a simple solution: sell it to us for the price of 30 pounds of watermelon. Not even a minute.
2) DMV. They made a field too short, two people used different abbreviations to fit into the field, the registrations didn't match and the unused portion of the old registration that should have transferred over didn't. By the time it was fixed IIRC 4 people had been involved, something like an hour passed. Over what turned out to be $6. (Not that I knew the number when I squawked.) The vast majority of that time was spent trying to document to the system that it was proper. Nobody with the authority to simply say moving this money is proper, do it.
And the related problem of politicians always wanting to visibly do something. Lots of duplicated effort because of this. Locally, several professional type fields require a separate business entity for every licensee even if they are part of something else that is licensed. A few hundred dollars a year per person for absolutely no benefit to society.
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#987Speaking from personal experience, this is consistent with multiple doctors over the years recommending high-protein, low carb diets. (Clarification: low does not mean no carb.) I don't understand people freaking out over this - outside of a purely political reflex - hell hath no fury like taking away nerds' Mountain Dew and Flamin' Hot Cheetos. Nor do I understand the negative reactions to new restrictions on SNAP -…
Restrictions on SNAP are tricky business. You can't ask someone on SNAP to spend time preparing food. Prepared meals are expensive, often not accessible, and sometimes difficult to prepare for people with certain disabilities. It might seem strange, but I have known people, very poor people, who rely on "foods in bar and drink form" out of necessity. I have known poor people for whom eating fruit is physically challe…
What they need to do is handle disability better. When you try to make it one size fits all you're either too generous with the cheap problems or too stingy with the expensive ones.
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#988Speaking from personal experience, this is consistent with multiple doctors over the years recommending high-protein, low carb diets. (Clarification: low does not mean no carb.) I don't understand people freaking out over this - outside of a purely political reflex - hell hath no fury like taking away nerds' Mountain Dew and Flamin' Hot Cheetos. Nor do I understand the negative reactions to new restrictions on SNAP -…
Restrictions on SNAP are tricky business. You can't ask someone on SNAP to spend time preparing food. Prepared meals are expensive, often not accessible, and sometimes difficult to prepare for people with certain disabilities. It might seem strange, but I have known people, very poor people, who rely on "foods in bar and drink form" out of necessity. I have known poor people for whom eating fruit is physically challe…
I very much can ask someone on SNAP to spend time preparing food. In fact, I demand it.
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#989For all the lunacy of RFK this somehow is actually a really good set of guidelines? Certainly better than the previous version. I didn't expect that to be honest.
The problem is framing this as "most americans are sick" and blaming it on diet.
Finally someone addresses the king's attire!
State a problem. Propose a "solution" without doing anything to establish that it is actually a solution. Make it about "real", ignore the real issue of what one gets from the calories consumed. It's not the processing that makes food bad, it's that ultraprocessed foods are optimized for enjoyable eating, messing up our body's regulatory system. We eat too many calories too fast and get little from them other than calories.
Especially objectionable to me is whole milk. It's so easy to drink so many calories.
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#990Tyson foods and other meatpacking companies lobbied and funded RFK... Here's industry reports https://www.nationalbeefwire.com/doctors-group-applauds-comm... https://www.wattagnet.com/business-markets/policy-legislatio... And straight up lobbying groups https://www.nationalchickencouncil.org/new-dietary-guideline... https://www.meatinstitute.org/press/recommend-prioritizing-p... Lobbying groups, putting out press rel…
I was wondering why meat and veg were side by side, rather than vegetables being at the base. The new pyramid is still better than the old one, but not completely intellectually honest...
I thought this way is pretty good since the problem with the old one was that it makes vegetables look like a side-dish.
The new pyramid reflects a healthy plate of food: mostly meat and veggies, and a little piece of bread on the side. It's almost genius.