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Total monthly number of StackOverflow questions over time

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Re: Total monthly number of StackOverflow questions over time

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>> Question can be marked as duplicate without an answer. > No, they literally cannot. You missed that people repeatedly closed question as duplicate when it was not a duplicate. So it had answer, just to a different mildly related question. LLM are having problems but they gaslight me in say 3% of cases, not 60% of cases like SO mods.

Please feel free to show examples.

you are missing the point

Re: Total monthly number of StackOverflow questions over time

#982

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The tone of this answer explains everything why people fled SO as soon as they possibly could.

What "tone"? Why is it unreasonable to say these sorts of things about Stack Overflow, or about any community? How is "your questions and answers need to meet our standards to be accepted" any different from "your pull requests need to meet our standards to be accepted"?

Man, if this was irl, you'd be punched in the face or ostracized. That's a quick way to assess if your tone is right.

If you don't have a mental capacity to do that (nothing against you, some people are just born that way) — I pity you, but still, try to be 'helpful' over 'correct'. That's how civilization is built.

Wikipedia also have this problem, with moderators using some 'wiki-speak' jargon to 'win the comment battles'.

Re: Total monthly number of StackOverflow questions over time

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And that was the core problem with Stack Overflow - they wanted to build a system of core Q&As to be a reference, but everyone treated it as a "fix my very specific problem now". 99% of all the junk that got closed was just dumps of code and 'it doesn't work'. Not useful to anyone.

And 99% of the other stuff, that wasn't just a code dump and "it doesn't work", was also closed.

Believe it or not, that's not correct :)

Re: Total monthly number of StackOverflow questions over time

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I remember those too! There were seemingly thousands of them! Reminds me of my most black-hat project — a Wikipedia proxy with 2 Adsense ads injected into the page. It made me like $20-25 a month for a year or so but sadly (nah, perfectly fairly) Google got wise to it.

I'm actually surprised it was only ~$20 a month.

Honestly, if I'd gotten in earlier I bet it would have made more. I also made zero attempts to SEO it -- there were no links to it anywhere else on the Internet, so it would have been in the very first tranche of useless duplicative spam sites of that type to be cleaned up. It was up from like 2010-2013 or so.

Re: Total monthly number of StackOverflow questions over time

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Why would anyone with an ounce of self-respect try to beg an stranger with enough internet point to look if their question is worthy of being asked? Do you not realize how the proposal must sound to someone who is not already in the SO in-group?

It's not about if it's "worthy of being asked", but mainly that many of us doubt the stories presented here without evidence. Time and time again examples are asked for in HN discussions about SO, but they're never presented. One other thing often missed is that people answer these questions on their spare time to be nice. A closed question wouldn't necessarily have gotten any good answers anyways. And if you've ever…

Anyone who uses SO often enough have seen them for themselves. We don't really need proof. Besides which, this isn't court. The burden of proof is on the person who wants to know, not the strangers around them who have no responsibility to them.

Re: Total monthly number of StackOverflow questions over time

#986
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Some comments: - This is a really remarkable graph. I just didn't realize how thoroughly it was over for SO. It stuns me as much as when Encyclopædia Britannica stopped selling print versions a mere 9 years after the publication of Wikipedia, but at an even faster timescale. - I disagree with most comments that the brusque moderation is the cause of SO's problems, though it certainly didn't help. SO has had poor mode…

The moderation was a lot of the problem, but not the whole problem. Honestly these days a larger part is that old, low-quality answers are usually stuck as the top answer on old questions, despite the fact that the situation has changed massively in the past decade and there are newer answers further down that give the new answer. Or better yet: when the top answer is a decade old and says "that doesn't even make sense, why would you want to do that, it's impossible, but you can look at literally the entire Handbook to see what you can do" (with a link to the frontpage of the FreeBSD Handbook) and you have to scroll down nearly to the bottom to find the one answer that actually answers the question (how to add an on-link route on FreeBSD) (and that it's not actually impossible like the arrogant jerk on top claimed)...

Re: Total monthly number of StackOverflow questions over time

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> This is why all the moderation pushes toward deleting duplicates of questions, and having a single accepted answer. My personal single biggest source of frustration with SO has been outdated answers that are locking out more modern and correct answers. There are so many things for which there is no permanently right answer over time. It feels like SO started solidifying and failed to do the moderation cleaning and…

They introduced recent-votes-count-more, perhaps five years ago.

And yet for the past five years, every time I've looked at it, the top answers are all uselessly outdated.

Simply getting rid of the stupid dupe policy would've helped solve this a lot better than time-weighted voting.

Re: Total monthly number of StackOverflow questions over time

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They introduced recent-votes-count-more, perhaps five years ago.

And yet for the past five years, every time I've looked at it, the top answers are all uselessly outdated. Simply getting rid of the stupid dupe policy would've helped solve this a lot better than time-weighted voting.

It works well in my experience, but it is not always enabled. Seems to be opt-in on every site instead of default.

Re: Total monthly number of StackOverflow questions over time

#989

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The tone of this answer explains everything why people fled SO as soon as they possibly could.

What "tone"? Why is it unreasonable to say these sorts of things about Stack Overflow, or about any community? How is "your questions and answers need to meet our standards to be accepted" any different from "your pull requests need to meet our standards to be accepted"?

You can’t see that, and that’s the problem.

The obnoxious tone and the assumption to be on the right side.

I’m so happy StackOverflow is dying :)

Re: Total monthly number of StackOverflow questions over time

#990

Someone needs to archive the entirety of StackOverflow and make it available over torrent so that it can be preserved when the site shuts down. Urgently.

ArchiveTeam got alerted to this thread on IRC and may do something. Current non-updated docs about SO.

https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/Stack_Exchange

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