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Re: Steam Machine

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The body is really simple and appealing but as these are rare nowadays I wish they'd consider squeezing an optional optical drive inside or perhaps maybe some external one that would stack on top.

Aren’t external optical drives quite cheap and only require a USB connection? You could consider that instead and stack it on top.

Yeah that's an option of course

Somehow it was much easier for me to move from floppy drive than from optical one

Re: Steam Machine

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post #218

Very interesting! The one killer issue that jumps to mind is anti-cheat. I switched away from gaming on Linux via Proton to gaming on Windows because Battlefield 6's anti-cheat won't work under Proton. Many games are like this, particularly some of the most popular (Rainbow 6 Siege for instance). And BF6 made this decision only recently despite the growing number of Steam Deck players (and other players on linux - in…

I view it as Valve is doing me a favor by adding friction towards me installing a rootkit to play video games. There's also been numerous userspace ACs that work well and also run in userspace (EAC, Battleye, etc.) that have been enabled for Linux/Proton users (including by EA with Apex Legends at one point). A lot of the support for Linux mostly comes down to the developer/publishers not wanting to and not because o…

There are hacks these days that sniff the pcie bus with an FPGA to mitm the ram, render out the game state, and render an overlay on top of the monitor.

It's a crazy arms race that IDK even kernel mode can compete with at the end of the day.

I think this shift away from community-led multiplayer is approaching a dead-end with respect to this hacking arms race.

Player bans and votekicks used to be so easy to do. And while there were some badmins, I argue it still resulted in an overall healthier multiplayer ecosystem.

OF course we know this shift is so the developer can control the game more tightly for monetization purposes. But i think the end result of this is more harm than good.

Re: Steam Machine

#983

Very interesting! The one killer issue that jumps to mind is anti-cheat. I switched away from gaming on Linux via Proton to gaming on Windows because Battlefield 6's anti-cheat won't work under Proton. Many games are like this, particularly some of the most popular (Rainbow 6 Siege for instance). And BF6 made this decision only recently despite the growing number of Steam Deck players (and other players on linux - in…

All Valve has to do is say “Your software cannot deliberately exclude linux support including kernel anti-cheat to be listed on Steam.” And that would be that, the few devs big enough to make it on their own would leave, and everyone else would adapt.

Ironically, this might create a perverse incentive to shift gamers to linux as all the hackers jump from windows to linux to take advantage of the lack of KMAC.

Re: Steam Machine

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post #805

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what kind of specs can we build a mini itx these days? I haven't looked into it, but the small form factor is a pretty big premium. I'm not sure I could build a ~ Raydon 7600xt micro itx build for less than $1K usd? (I haven't really looked, though). For me, I'm looking at this like a nice micro itx build, and I'd probably pay up to a grand for it. (pending final specs and performance reviews, because it's kind of ha…

Intel i7, 1tb ssd, 32gb ram and 3070 can fit in ITX which would be MUCH better performance than the steam box for games. Only downside is you have to install Windows of course.

Why do you have to install Windows? You could put bazzite or any other distro of your choosing on this machine and have a similar experience to the official Steam Machine.

Re: Steam Machine

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Just wondering, what games are you playing that dont run on Linux yet? I can't think of games I'd play much with family that dont work well

Microsoft Flight Simulator

From what I can see, that runs fine through Protob

Re: Steam Machine

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My theory for a bit now has been that Valve is playing the long game in trying to make SteamOS a mainstay gaming platform as an alternative to Windows, and that the hardware products are essentially a way of breaking into that market. Even a few years ago, the idea of a custom Linux distro based on Arch Linux with both a built-in full desktop mode and a lower-powered gaming mode that you could switch between on a han…

Until they get rid of their dependency on Windows, they can come with whatever alternatives they feel like, Microsoft has the last word.

Re: Steam Machine

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post #898

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> " All of this insulates them from having to worry about the long-term sustainability of making money from game sales on Windows... " The weak link in your theory is that Microsoft is in control of the future of the DirectX API, not Valve, and it is Microsoft who is working with nVidia and AMD and game studios to evolve DirectX to take advantage of the latest GPU features. SteamOS can at best follow closely behind b…

Did you forget about Vulkan? Valve and AMD are Khronos members and active contributors to the Vulkan spec. Games like Baldur's Gate 3 and Civ VII use Vulkan on Deck. There's a complete graphics ecosystem with full participation from the games industry that doesn't have Microsoft as the gatekeeper.

Vulkan has become the same extension mess as OpenGL, it is only taken seriously by Google, Samsung and Valve.
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