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Marines being mobilized in response to LA protests
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Re: Marines being mobilized in response to LA protests
#982Earlier quoted context omitted.
To anyone who watched or lived through the ascension of Orbán and Erdogan in the 2000s it was very eerie how similar the playbook was for Trump. The same steps, in the same direction, the competitive authoritarian[0] playbook was clearly in full play, during the first term Trump started to openly attack the free press, subjugate some democratic institutions, etc. but guardrails were still holding, some GOP Congress p…
Yeah it all feels so hopeless. I don't know what I should be doing.
I'm not from the US, so I may have get wrong, but didn't the Founding Fathers envision that people should be able to collectively rise up and overthrow a tyrant? Hence the right to keep and bear arms?
Of course, from a practical sense this does not seem possible, since the current US military, which a tyrant president would have direct control over, would be infinitely more powerful than a revolutionary group.
Re: Marines being mobilized in response to LA protests
#983Your entire lifestyle is depending on, respectively subsidized by, the exploitation of imported labor from 3rd world countries. That is why a sizeable portion of you guys is so upset about these ICE immigration law enforcement actions.
You are probably posting from your Californian gated communities, afraid to lose your Mexican gardener, Venezuelan housemaid, Philippina babysitter, or your Cuban pool boy.
Re: Marines being mobilized in response to LA protests
#984Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah, the whole platform is about Othering. The greatest trick the rich ever pulled was convincing the middle class that the poor are the cause of all their problems.
And power. Like their power over this young girl trying to go home: Edit: https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/1l88mhj/lap... Old dead link: https://www.reddit.com/r/chaoticgood/comments/1l8ax0z/protes... Remember, less lethal does not mean non-lethal and doesn't mean it can't cause enough damage to impact someone's quality of life forever.
So... I come from a country where police are still mostly respected. They also don't use rubber bullets usually.
From my point of view, this person was disobeying orders from police, which gives them the right to use force. Is a rubber bullet an appropriate amount of force? Probably not, but I don't see this video as a completely one sided interaction with one party being wrong.
Re: Marines being mobilized in response to LA protests
#985Your entire lifestyle is depending on, respectively subsidized by, the exploitation of imported labor from 3rd world countries. That is why a sizeable portion of you guys is so upset about these ICE immigration law enforcement actions. You are probably posting from your Californian gated communities, afraid to lose your Mexican gardener, Venezuelan housemaid, Philippina babysitter, or your Cuban pool boy.
This might be the worst take I've seen yet. I'm watching this from the other side of the ocean and what I see is a wannabe autocratic leader trying to stay relevant through defining an enemy that doesn't exist.
I also see people who just want to live a normal life being kidnapped.
I also see judgement without fair trial.
I see hate becoming the main driving factor in a country I used to love for being so welcoming.
Also, you seem to forget that your food and housing and many other parts of your country are also depending on foreign labor. If Trump deports as many immigrants as he wants to (he can't and won't), the US will have a massive labor crisis.
Re: Marines being mobilized in response to LA protests
#986Earlier quoted context omitted.
> LA just can't seem to catch a break. Floods last year, fires earlier this year and now this I'm in LA right now. If I didn't read the news I wouldn't know anything is up.
Living in LA is so great. The only thing I regret in my life is not getting here sooner.
I love seeing when someone finds the right place for them. Why is LA so great for you?
Re: Marines being mobilized in response to LA protests
#987Earlier quoted context omitted.
LA had plenty of local police to handle the scale of the protests (it's something like 88 different jurisdictions in the whole region). Of the 2000 national guard deployed, only 300 have actually been operationalized. There was hardly any looting or rioting. Certainly not more than could be handled locally. Trump is doing this to deliberately escalate the situation.
While I think you are right that Trump is doing this to escalate the situation, > LA had plenty of local police to handle the scale of the protests before sure, and why didn't they do it this time? I suspect for the same reason: both Bass and Newsom want to escalate the situation as well. And when both sides want escalation that's what we get. My 2c.
I think the fact that the LAPD had a press conference where they stated they were prioritizing responding to only certain kinds of crimes and cancelled time off for officers among a whole list of changes, indicates they could use help and adding in federal resources was the correct decision.
Re: Marines being mobilized in response to LA protests
#988"Preserve, protect, and defend the constitution of the United States of America".. more or less what our soldiers take an oath to do. I don't see any of this as consistent with that oath. Our military commanders have a duty to refuse this order.
Re: Marines being mobilized in response to LA protests
#989Your entire lifestyle is depending on, respectively subsidized by, the exploitation of imported labor from 3rd world countries. That is why a sizeable portion of you guys is so upset about these ICE immigration law enforcement actions. You are probably posting from your Californian gated communities, afraid to lose your Mexican gardener, Venezuelan housemaid, Philippina babysitter, or your Cuban pool boy.
I live in a flyover state, and do not have any "staff" of any kind, and you are full of horse hockey.
Re: Marines being mobilized in response to LA protests
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LA is definitely okay with illegal immigrants, but it's akin to a deal with the devil. It's a sacrifice on their part for cheap labor in exchange for the occasional burning down and looting of their favorite locations when the tide turns against their favor as it is right now. There is an entire economic system and mechanism of living wrapped around this blood-contract in states like California. The moment something…
1992 riots weren't perpetrated by migrants, to the extent they were involved it was as victims. Neither was any of the looting in 2020 to my knowledge. Btw, nothing significant was "burned down" in 2020 either. Some shops hit by looters closed for a while and eventually reopened. Fairfax was hard hit by looting and if you went there today you would have no clue that anything happened. The current events are primarily…
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