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Trump administration halts Harvard's ability to enroll international students

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Please don't cross into name-calling or personal attack, regardless of how wrong someone else is or you feel they are.

If you'd please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stick to the rules when posting here, we'd appreciate it. We've had to ask you this more than once before and your account has unfortunately been continuing to break the rules pretty badly.

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This goes both ways.

Why would you feel the need to state this? Obviously it would and it should. If Trump was a Democrat and the same situation was occurring then Democrat voters should be called out

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Can we say "fascism" out loud yet or are moderates still pretending everything is fine?

The other side four years ago: Can we say "Marxism" out loud yet or are moderates still pretending everything is fine?

Marxism is when ultra-capitalist slightly right leaning politicians make boring policies to further enrich the American capitalist class. Oh and also some token "woke" stuff that doesn't really help anyone but I guess doesn't make anything worse either.

There's not a single Marxist in American politics at any level of power that matters. We have two neo-liberal parties that are both right leaning. One is ultra-right and one is ever so slightly right leaning.

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children of the most powerful families across the world I doubt that most of those people are reliant on student visas.

You cannot jump over immigration requirements "just because you're powerful", and the vast majority of them are not US citizens.

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I probably should correct my tenses. I was referring to his "Big Beautiful Bill.", which only a Republican controlled senate stands in the way of.

Thanks. I see that the bill tightens the criteria for getting Medicaid.

That's... one incredibly generous way to say that. In actuality, it cuts Medicaid for a lot of hard working American tax payers.

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Voters face the consequence for their voting. So, in that meaning, they are responsible for the actions of the representatives.

What Republican voter is facing consequences for this specific situation? I do appreciate this notion as I read articles of government workers fired who supported Trump (why a person working for the government would vote Republican is beyond me). Many of Trumps actions attack those that would either likely never vote Republican or can't vote (illegals, groups on special visas that lost them, foreign students, etc)

I do not know if you will see this.. however, the consequence is faced by the society for electing someone. It is not that the republican voters face something separate.

If you agree that the actions of the current administration are detrimental to the US over long term, those are the consequences.

Take Alabama or Oklahoma for example - their policies have made those states backward. People in those states have poor education outcomes, less wealth and less health, lower social mobility etc. It impacts everyone in those states. Either the opposition needs to mobilize, message better etc. or the voters need to compare and realize what they are missing. If not, they will continue to face the consequences.

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Chesterton's fence is way too relevant, when it comes to the "citizenship is stupid, borders are stupid, countries are stupid blah blah blah" part.

It seems that the amount of fences is growing up exponentially. To the point that we are all corralled. Not so long time ago people could move from country to country relatively freely. Now it is a fucking tragedy

>Not so long time ago people could move from country to country relatively freely

The well-off rich and upper middle-class could move from country to country relatively freely, or immigrants who intended not to look back. Which puts a strong pressure on self-selection on the type of people coming into a country.

That time isn't now, with cheap airfares and the internet, it's much more easier for anyone to come in, often with no intention of integration and bringing their own sectarian politics in. When the time comes, how many of these immigrants do you think will fight for their host country? Especially if said host country make likely come into conflict with their homelands.

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Can we say "fascism" out loud yet or are moderates still pretending everything is fine?

The other side four years ago: Can we say "Marxism" out loud yet or are moderates still pretending everything is fine?

were the banks nationalized? All capital over 1 million seized and redistributed? Private property collectivized? Abandoned properties commandeered for the homeless by the state? I must have missed it.

What's "communism" now? The public park? A library? What's the current communist thing that makes you couch faint?

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Which isn’t at all how PhD programs work. This is a supreme dick move to students are going to be forced to leave with an AbD for no other reason than Trumps ego. This is going to burn the children of the most powerful families across the world. Monarchies, dictators, owners of international conglomerates, etc all send their kids to Harvard. Destroying their children’s education out of a fit of malice is going to hau…

You're very wrong if you think harvard accepts children of dictators and monarchies for its graduate programs. It's near impossible to get into those program except if you are a genius (exceptionally high GPA and GRE grades, published valuable scientific papers in prestigious journals). Just check the graduate student's directory to see what I mean.

Or have the right demographic details.

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I understand it's cool to slam Harvard these days but it is nonetheless a behemoth when it comes to research output. https://www.harvard.edu/about/history/nobel-laureates/ https://www.nature.com/nature-index/research-leaders/2024/in... https://hms.harvard.edu/about-hms/history-hms/timeline-disco... https://www.harvard.edu/in-focus/innovation/ Roughly a third of the 50-something of Harvard's Nobel laureates were immig…

Their research output will fall, because they just revoked Francesca Gino's tenure. So far to their reputation on honesty and ethics.
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