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Trump temporarily drops tariffs to 10% for most countries

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Re: Trump temporarily drops tariffs to 10% for most countries

#981

"It’s the T-bills wot dun it." That’s my read on why the U.S. just paused the global tariff hike to 10%. From the beginning, I’ve believed the executive branch's real goal was to push down the yield on the 10-year Treasury. Why? Because Uncle Sam has to refinance a mountain of debt this year, and the cost of that depends heavily on Treasury yields — especially the 10-year. That’s the rate that sets the tone for every…

Can someone ELI5 this?

Re: Trump temporarily drops tariffs to 10% for most countries

#982

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>something flipped. China dumped 500B in treasuries and the basis trade blew up is what happened Tariff deals were still going to happen regardless. The pause is a stop gap for the basis trade (20+x levered), of which an uncontrolled unwinding threatens the entire financial system. Fed already had a bailout facility ready as a plan B. Too big to fail and all that

It's okay, the Fed has been insolvent at least two years now https://thehill.com/opinion/finance/3955889-the-fed-is-bankr...

Calling the Fed bankrupt isn't a close to accurate description of what was described in the column. The post describes a unhealthy balance sheet, but the Fed can't go "bankrupt" in the common sense, as it banks itself, with the assets held on it's ledgers purchased and backed by the hypothetically infinite monetary supply. All that was described in the column wasn't bankruptcy as they put it, but how the Fed organizes assets by their quality.

Re: Trump temporarily drops tariffs to 10% for most countries

#983

One thing that makes me curious. Pennsylvania unemployment rate is 3,4%. In the EU you commonly see unemployment rates around 10% and that is even after rather massive reeducation programs. Why is this seen as such a big problem that these 3,4% pretty much get to decide the entire US policy? In the EU that would be a great number and mostly normal considering that people that switch jobs or just finished studying or…

You sure its just the 3.4%? 5% is considered 'full employment' so 3.4 should be some of the best times in history.

How many people are employed but are in a job that barely provides enough money to survive? How many people are working 2 or even 3 jobs just to barely survive? Those people would be counted as 'employed'. You should look at these other groups of people before making judgement.

Re: Trump temporarily drops tariffs to 10% for most countries

#984

One thing that makes me curious. Pennsylvania unemployment rate is 3,4%. In the EU you commonly see unemployment rates around 10% and that is even after rather massive reeducation programs. Why is this seen as such a big problem that these 3,4% pretty much get to decide the entire US policy? In the EU that would be a great number and mostly normal considering that people that switch jobs or just finished studying or…

You sure its just the 3.4%? 5% is considered 'full employment' so 3.4 should be some of the best times in history. How many people are employed but are in a job that barely provides enough money to survive? How many people are working 2 or even 3 jobs just to barely survive? Those people would be counted as 'employed'. You should look at these other groups of people before making judgement.

I don't make judgement. I just read the link, and the source seemed reputable.

But all I hear is "we want factory work back to Pennsylvania".

If the jobs pay too low, why would you want even more low paying jobs back to USA, sewing t-shirts, making sneakers, working in a factory?

And - specifically - why do the people that want that get so much influence?

Re: Trump temporarily drops tariffs to 10% for most countries

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And China which accounts for about 20% of our imports have 130% tariffs.

Brings the average rate up to 33%.

The Administration confirmed that the tariff on China is 145% so the average rate is now 37%.

Re: Trump temporarily drops tariffs to 10% for most countries

#986

One thing that makes me curious. Pennsylvania unemployment rate is 3,4%. In the EU you commonly see unemployment rates around 10% and that is even after rather massive reeducation programs. Why is this seen as such a big problem that these 3,4% pretty much get to decide the entire US policy? In the EU that would be a great number and mostly normal considering that people that switch jobs or just finished studying or…

You sure its just the 3.4%? 5% is considered 'full employment' so 3.4 should be some of the best times in history. How many people are employed but are in a job that barely provides enough money to survive? How many people are working 2 or even 3 jobs just to barely survive? Those people would be counted as 'employed'. You should look at these other groups of people before making judgement.

There are several different definitions of unemployment rates: U-3, U-6, etc. Are you sure you are comparing using the same definition? See for instance https://www.investopedia.com/articles/investing/080415/true-...

Re: Trump temporarily drops tariffs to 10% for most countries

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I've seen relatively little discussion about these lawsuits, but I do think there is a pretty good chance that SCOTUS will rule these tariffs unconstitutional. (It's certainly more likely than Congress rescinding the powers they've ceded to the presidency.) Constitutionally, the power to set tariffs resides with the Legislative branch, not the Executive branch. Congress has delegated some authority to set tariffs und…

I think that is true, strictly speaking. But how do you justify all of the other trade deals made by other presidents? Were those also unconstitutional? Or just Trump's because they went up not down.

The past tariffs (including from Trump's first term) were targeted at specific industries like steel or aluminum so you could make a case that it was necessary for national security. Other trade deals that set a broad set of tariffs (like NAFTA) were ratified by the Senate.

Re: Trump temporarily drops tariffs to 10% for most countries

#988

"It’s the T-bills wot dun it." That’s my read on why the U.S. just paused the global tariff hike to 10%. From the beginning, I’ve believed the executive branch's real goal was to push down the yield on the 10-year Treasury. Why? Because Uncle Sam has to refinance a mountain of debt this year, and the cost of that depends heavily on Treasury yields — especially the 10-year. That’s the rate that sets the tone for every…

Trump formulated his ideas on tariffs in the 1980s. He talked about them with Oprah in another ero. He didn't do this in preparation for some realization of the bond situation in 2025.

Re: Trump temporarily drops tariffs to 10% for most countries

#989

"It’s the T-bills wot dun it." That’s my read on why the U.S. just paused the global tariff hike to 10%. From the beginning, I’ve believed the executive branch's real goal was to push down the yield on the 10-year Treasury. Why? Because Uncle Sam has to refinance a mountain of debt this year, and the cost of that depends heavily on Treasury yields — especially the 10-year. That’s the rate that sets the tone for every…

You read too much into it. Trump is manipulating the market for personal enrichment, in the most mundane manner.

Re: Trump temporarily drops tariffs to 10% for most countries

#990

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> Instead of being seen as a safe haven, U.S. debt itself started to look shaky There's also a more basic answer to why US debt got more expensive. There is no such thing as a "trade deficit". You cannot import something without exporting something else. That something else, in almost 100% of the situations, is dollars. What do you do with dollars, if there's nothing you want to buy? You buy debt. So, every trade def…

Boomers really fucked on the economy to Sunday didn’t they?

Yep, and despite the dwindling numbers they just keep on coming up with new ways of fucking it. "When you're a star they just let you do it"
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