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Re: TikTok says it is restoring service for U.S. users

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Post by red-iron-pine »

htaunay wrote: post #891
_7acn wrote: post #876

I think apps like TikTok or YouTube Shorts literally brainwash people. It’s one of the dumbest things ever invented on the Internet, yet incredibly addictive at the same time.

its like how 30 years ago when people would numblessly flip through hundreds of cable channels for hours, but with endless tailored content and extra dopamine shots on top from social feedback its very telling how, while youtube (classic) also has these same ingredients, the ux of looking through a menu is far less addicting than the slot machine mechanism from swiping up

yeah but cable was limited by channels and by producers. now anyone can make a video and it's possible to tailor that to tiny niches that would have never been served by cable.

Re: TikTok says it is restoring service for U.S. users

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Post by Dig1t »

yalogin wrote: post #968

The US presidency fully devolved into a mafia this time around, no more mincing words or operating behind the scenes. Just like a mafia don demands, all fealty should be in public and fully subservient, no half measures. Till now, commenting or criticizing someone was fair game, not anymore. Musk and trump have shown they can petty and vindictive. So no more commenting in public too. Not sure what this does to the pr…

Trump said yesterday in his speech that they want a model where the US owns 50% of Tik Tok and has some oversight.

This is pretty much the exact same setup that US companies get in China. This seems like a pretty decent compromise actually. Free speech advocates win because people still get to use the service, but national security folks also get a win because they can monitor its use by a foreign government and shut things down if it’s being used maliciously.

Re: TikTok says it is restoring service for U.S. users

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Post by rayiner »

yalogin wrote: post #968

The US presidency fully devolved into a mafia this time around, no more mincing words or operating behind the scenes. Just like a mafia don demands, all fealty should be in public and fully subservient, no half measures. Till now, commenting or criticizing someone was fair game, not anymore. Musk and trump have shown they can petty and vindictive. So no more commenting in public too. Not sure what this does to the pr…

This is just a publicity stunt to capitalize on his popularity among Gen Z: https://www.newsweek.com/young-people-most-optimisitc-about-.... Trump is simply picking up the ball Biden fumbled.

Re: TikTok says it is restoring service for U.S. users

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Post by jayd16 »

Dig1t wrote: post #982
yalogin wrote: post #968

The US presidency fully devolved into a mafia this time around, no more mincing words or operating behind the scenes. Just like a mafia don demands, all fealty should be in public and fully subservient, no half measures. Till now, commenting or criticizing someone was fair game, not anymore. Musk and trump have shown they can petty and vindictive. So no more commenting in public too. Not sure what this does to the pr…

Trump said yesterday in his speech that they want a model where the US owns 50% of Tik Tok and has some oversight. This is pretty much the exact same setup that US companies get in China. This seems like a pretty decent compromise actually. Free speech advocates win because people still get to use the service, but national security folks also get a win because they can monitor its use by a foreign government and shut…

I don't want to live in blue China, especially when the oversight is the Trump administration.

I wouldn't call required government control a free speech win.

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Post by jmull »

ARandomerDude wrote: post #973
yalogin wrote: post #968

The US presidency fully devolved into a mafia this time around, no more mincing words or operating behind the scenes. Just like a mafia don demands, all fealty should be in public and fully subservient, no half measures. Till now, commenting or criticizing someone was fair game, not anymore. Musk and trump have shown they can petty and vindictive. So no more commenting in public too. Not sure what this does to the pr…

You're very late to the party. https://oversight.house.gov/the-bidens-influence-peddling-ti...

I think it's pretty clear Hunter Biden has been sleazily profiting from the position of his father.

What's missing is Joe Biden's involvement.

If your politics are against Joe Biden, I guess you can just kind of imagine that he must have participated.

IMO, we should find corruption in politicians flat unacceptable, even if -- especially if -- they are on our own "side".

You may want to become concerned when the president can unilaterally contravene laws passed by congress and validated by the Supreme Court.

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Post by [deleted] »

Dig1t wrote: post #982
yalogin wrote: post #968

The US presidency fully devolved into a mafia this time around, no more mincing words or operating behind the scenes. Just like a mafia don demands, all fealty should be in public and fully subservient, no half measures. Till now, commenting or criticizing someone was fair game, not anymore. Musk and trump have shown they can petty and vindictive. So no more commenting in public too. Not sure what this does to the pr…

Trump said yesterday in his speech that they want a model where the US owns 50% of Tik Tok and has some oversight. This is pretty much the exact same setup that US companies get in China. This seems like a pretty decent compromise actually. Free speech advocates win because people still get to use the service, but national security folks also get a win because they can monitor its use by a foreign government and shut…

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Post by jwarden »

yalogin wrote: post #968

The US presidency fully devolved into a mafia this time around, no more mincing words or operating behind the scenes. Just like a mafia don demands, all fealty should be in public and fully subservient, no half measures. Till now, commenting or criticizing someone was fair game, not anymore. Musk and trump have shown they can petty and vindictive. So no more commenting in public too. Not sure what this does to the pr…

The US president is not all-powerful. If he was, Trump would not have been forced to hand over power to Biden in 2020.

Certainly he is petty and vindictive. But there have always been petty and vindictive people in power, and people that were too scared of them to speak their mind. But there have always been those who still dare to criticize people in power.

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Post by riversflow »

Dig1t wrote: post #982
yalogin wrote: post #968

The US presidency fully devolved into a mafia this time around, no more mincing words or operating behind the scenes. Just like a mafia don demands, all fealty should be in public and fully subservient, no half measures. Till now, commenting or criticizing someone was fair game, not anymore. Musk and trump have shown they can petty and vindictive. So no more commenting in public too. Not sure what this does to the pr…

Trump said yesterday in his speech that they want a model where the US owns 50% of Tik Tok and has some oversight. This is pretty much the exact same setup that US companies get in China. This seems like a pretty decent compromise actually. Free speech advocates win because people still get to use the service, but national security folks also get a win because they can monitor its use by a foreign government and shut…

> This is pretty much the exact same setup that US companies get in China.

I mean, no? Meta, Google, X, Snap and American social networks in general are banned in China.

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Post by thiht »

jwarden wrote: post #988
yalogin wrote: post #968

The US presidency fully devolved into a mafia this time around, no more mincing words or operating behind the scenes. Just like a mafia don demands, all fealty should be in public and fully subservient, no half measures. Till now, commenting or criticizing someone was fair game, not anymore. Musk and trump have shown they can petty and vindictive. So no more commenting in public too. Not sure what this does to the pr…

The US president is not all-powerful. If he was, Trump would not have been forced to hand over power to Biden in 2020. Certainly he is petty and vindictive. But there have always been petty and vindictive people in power, and people that were too scared of them to speak their mind. But there have always been those who still dare to criticize people in power.

> Trump would not have been forced to hand over power

Can you re-read your sentence and ask yourself if this is a normal thing to say in a working democracy? That this is even on the table means Trump IS a dictator. He was just too dumb to know how to make it work in 2020. From a non American lens, it actually looks like you handed power to a dictator because he won "fair and square" this time. I have trouble believing the US will have another genuine vote in my lifetime.

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