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Re: Two undersea cables in Baltic Sea disrupted

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Post by aguaviva »

inopinatus wrote: post #978
hackandthink wrote: post #942

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Who Caused the Ukraine War? https://mearsheimer.substack.com/p/who-caused-the-ukraine-wa...

Mearsheimer is entirely captured by Putin’s “Valdai Club” propaganda unit. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valdai_Discussion_Club

Captured, no. Never estimate the human potential for naivete self-deception.

What we do know is that they've been in close contact, and that he is sincerely grateful to them:

   In John Mearsheimer's 2023 book "How States Think", the foreword acknowledges him receiving a small financial support from Valdai in conjunction with Best Book award for his 2019 book "The Great Delusion".

Re: Two undersea cables in Baltic Sea disrupted

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Post by nozzlegear »

meiraleal wrote: post #640
jiggawatts wrote: post #189

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> Lucky Russia to have the strength to make their enemies fear them. Russia has enemies because for centuries it has attacked its neighbours repeatedly. And then imposed its own idea of peace that involves tanks rolling through Budapest and soldiers executing students and poets. Tiananmen square shocked the world, but that kind of behaviour was already familiar to Eastern Europeans. It was the same old song, differen…

> Russia has enemies because for centuries it has attacked its neighbours repeatedly. The same can be said of the French, English and Germans, that only stop destroying themselves after they united to fight Russia (which ironically saved the first 2 against the last one otherwise they would not even exist as sovereign states anymore).

> which ironically saved the first 2 against the last one otherwise

I think you're forgetting somebody important? Another country that was actually on the beaches in Normandy?

Re: Two undersea cables in Baltic Sea disrupted

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Post by stoperaticless »

stoperaticless wrote: post #551
trhway wrote: post #468

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We can look at October 7th in Israel how long, with all the communications and infrastructure working, it took to organize defense in a very technologically developed country which basically had been living in the state of war readiness. Now add broken significant communications, chaos of non-working banks/ATMs, power shut-offs, clogged highways, etc. (don't get me wrong - i'm not saying that Russia can do all that,…

These broke cables have not affected daily lives (possibly ISPs had extra work though)

Analysis regarding latencies and packet loss due to cut cables:

https://labs.ripe.net/author/emileaben/does-the-internet-rou...

Re: Two undersea cables in Baltic Sea disrupted

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Post by aa-jv »

aguaviva wrote: post #757
aa-jv wrote: post #676

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>Nobody had incentive to blow up empty pipes except Russia. Nonsense. Biden had a great deal of incentive to destroy that pipeline.

Biden had a great deal of incentive to destroy that pipeline. But far too many more obvious counterincentives. Unlike the Ukrainians, NATO/US were smart enough to see that blowing up NS2 would be hugely stupid, providing precisely zero strategic advantage while simply provoking Russia to respond assymetrically (in exactly the same way as it is apparently doing right now). In addition to the huge methane release. So i…

Your belief in the infallible nobility of NATO belies a vested interest in ignoring its massive, undeniable war crimes, crimes against humanity and violations of human rights at massive scale, as an organization, this century.

>Unlike the Ukrainians, NATO/US were smart enough

I do not concur with this glib assessment one bit.

Re: Two undersea cables in Baltic Sea disrupted

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Post by aa-jv »

oneshtein wrote: post #692
aa-jv wrote: post #676

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>Nobody had incentive to blow up empty pipes except Russia. Nonsense. Biden had a great deal of incentive to destroy that pipeline.

LOL Biden has no balls to do that.

Had. NS2 was almost two years ago. Your current Biden assessment may be correct, but two years ago there was a great deal more lucidity, when he stated that "no matter what, the NS2 pipeline will not be allowed to persist" ..

Re: Two undersea cables in Baltic Sea disrupted

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Post by inemesitaffia »

TiredOfLife wrote: post #483
aredox wrote: post #30

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Send some sharpnel on the same orbital altitude as Starlink and the whole constellation disappears.

It's Starlink. It would take an sms from Putin at most for Musk to turn it off.

Oh really

Re: Two undersea cables in Baltic Sea disrupted

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Post by a2128 »

IncreasePosts wrote: post #337
HumblyTossed wrote: post #328

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"We" won't respond because "we" just elected a Russian asset and he is going to install more in his cabinet.

It's already been settled that the trump dossier from 2016 was a work of fiction. Why did Putin take crimea under Obama's watch, parts of Ukraine under Biden's watch, but then not make any huge moves like those while his "asset" was in the white house?

Trump says that he wants to finish "fundamentally reevaluating NATO's purpose and NATO's mission", and "the greatest threat to Western Civilization today is not Russia. [...] It's the Marxists who would have us become a Godless nation worshipping at the altar of race, and gender, and environment." I take that as a pretty clear stance that he wants to help Russia this term by dismantling or weakening NATO and creating too much infighting within America to worry about defending allies from Russia

Source: https://web.archive.org/web/20240913225017/https://www.donal...

Re: Two undersea cables in Baltic Sea disrupted

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Post by gitaarik »

leovingi wrote: post #507
gitaarik wrote: post #504

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Why would cables close to each other break?

because if it's an accident and someone is dragging an anchor behind them, if the cables are only meters apart then they are going to cut both

Wouldn't they notice after the first cable? I imagine it would be noticable

Re: Two undersea cables in Baltic Sea disrupted

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Post by petre »

pretzel32 wrote: post #388
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #191

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> What exactly would "properly" arming Ukraine look like? More long-range offensive weapons and clearance to hit sites in Russia. Let Israel know that we wouldn't mind them taking out the Iranian drone factories supplying Russia.

It must be nice starting yet another world conflict from the comfort of a leather chair, in a bank in New York... "Go on my little goyim, go spill your blood so we can invest in a free Ukraine!"

I won't criticize the Pentagon. They're taking orders from higher up who's waiting for Russia to escalate in order to respond. The ballistic missile strike on Dnipro is a new devlopment: "This could have been a strategic nuclear strike, but it's a Russian PR statement instead". I wonder what South Korea is waiting for, Kim getting proper ICBM tech from Russia?
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