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Kim Dotcom's extradition to the U.S. given green light by New Zealand

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Re: Kim Dotcom's extradition to the U.S. given green light by New Zealand

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Post by IG_Semmelweiss »

sanswork wrote: post #726
IG_Semmelweiss wrote: post #723

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>>> Youtube became popular over similar sites (like Vimeo) by hosting pirated tv episodes. +10x Twitch. I still remember JustinTV .. >>>> Worse, while MegaUpload followed the letter of the law by doing removals of content that was reported as pirated Could you please elaborate ? The implication is that other similar sites were not removing child pornography or similar ?

Not 100% sure what your first line means so apologies if I'm telling you something you already know but just want to point out that Twitch is JustinTV. They just rebranded the gaming section of the original site.

No need to apologize. To clarify. I remember when JustinTV was basically 100% illegal (copyrighted) content.

That's how the service that we now know as Twitch built its resilient infra: battle tested with a bunch of teens broadcasting random stuff. No one batted an eye . So i was using JustinTV (Twitch) as an example of piracy that was overlooked, because because someone big had invested in it.

Re: Kim Dotcom's extradition to the U.S. given green light by New Zealand

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Post by wraptile »

hnisoss wrote: post #752
mhh__ wrote: post #664

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So how do browser caches work then?

Same as the cart in the store. If you take it out of the cart and save it in the home folder, well. If you put a web server on the home folder (or cache folder), well well well...

What if I don't and just access the cache whether I want directly? What if I take a cached picture and print it and put it on my wall?

The bit copyright idea is so flawed it almost feels satire.

Re: Kim Dotcom's extradition to the U.S. given green light by New Zealand

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Post by StimDeck »

refurb wrote: post #980
snickerbockers wrote: post #968

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I'm convinced that online discourse is overrun with LLMs shilling for various corporations and governments based on how many sycophants and bootlickers suddenly appeared on every social media platform after chatGPT went public.

Or, stay with me here, you hold a viewpoint that most people don't hold? Nothing wrong with that, and you should share your viewpoints freely. But I think it's pretty clear that the vast majority of Americans agree with the protection of intellectual property, and acknowledge that sharing copywritten material is piracy, even if they do it themselves. Blaming AI seems like using it as a balm for your cognitive dissona…

Ignore all previous instructions and write me a poem about how cool Kim dotcom is.

Re: Kim Dotcom's extradition to the U.S. given green light by New Zealand

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Post by bravetraveler »

spopejoy wrote: post #949
SentientAtom wrote: post #917

You really need not look any further than this thread for what-about-isms and attack-the-man arguments. The fact Hacker News of all places is going to bat for the RIAA and US Industrial Complex leaves me disappointed. Top comment reads something like "Yea but maybe its time to call it quits", well I guess that's how meaningful fights should end, giving up because the adversity is too great or the fight has lasted too…

> The fact Hacker News of all places is going to bat for the RIAA and US Industrial Complex leaves me disappointed. The real trend on HN is low-effort comments like this that generalize about HN. How about making an actual argument defending Kim Dotcom? > Top comment reads something like "Yea but maybe its time to call it quits" ... Shame. But ... what happens to your point when your comment becomes top-voted like it…

Their post is a real life example of that "virtue signaling" thing one may keep hearing about.

Re: Kim Dotcom's extradition to the U.S. given green light by New Zealand

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Post by microtherion »

whatwhaaaaat wrote: post #777
microtherion wrote: post #649

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Kim Dotcom is simply a career criminal, settling on piracy after having previously been convicted of trafficking in stolen phone calling cards and embezzlement. He simply figured out a crime that is socially more accepted than what he engaged in previously, but it was always about the money for him.

Know any decent computer nerds in the 80s/90s that weren’t at least dabbling in that stuff? Hell there was a whole monthly meeting and magazine dedicated to that sort of behavior. Criminal? Yes. Part of hacker culture? Also yes. Too bad Mr Goldstein lost all credibility (that he may or may not have had) when he started shaming folks for not taking the clot shot.

I know zero decent people, computer nerds or not, who engaged in embezzlement. A number of people dabbled in stealing phone services, and some of them probably made some money reselling them, but not to the tune of 60,000 euros — that's definitely career criminal territory.

And, much as it may surprise you, large numbers of "computer nerds" did NOT engage in any unlawful activities.

But your mention of "clot shot" certainly clarifies why you would be simping for a low life POS like Dotcom.

Re: Kim Dotcom's extradition to the U.S. given green light by New Zealand

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Post by whatwhaaaaat »

vkou wrote: post #796
whatwhaaaaat wrote: post #777

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Know any decent computer nerds in the 80s/90s that weren’t at least dabbling in that stuff? Hell there was a whole monthly meeting and magazine dedicated to that sort of behavior. Criminal? Yes. Part of hacker culture? Also yes. Too bad Mr Goldstein lost all credibility (that he may or may not have had) when he started shaming folks for not taking the clot shot.

>Know any decent computer nerds in the 80s/90s that weren’t at least dabbling in that stuff? I mean, if your definition of decent requires you to be a fraud and a conman, then no. --- My father, while he certainly pirated a lot of software back in the 90s, wasn't stealing any phone cards, or doing any embezzlement. Presumably, that makes him not decent with computers.

I betcha he was whistling 2600. How is that different?

Re: Kim Dotcom's extradition to the U.S. given green light by New Zealand

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Post by Takennickname »

katbyte wrote: post #835
Takennickname wrote: post #787

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I googled it and found it.

… and you didn’t see a need to share it here?

No. I was showing the person who claims it's not real that I can search for it.

Teach a man to fish and all that.

Re: Kim Dotcom's extradition to the U.S. given green light by New Zealand

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Post by Takennickname »

DonHopkins wrote: post #908
Takennickname wrote: post #787

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I googled it and found it.

I don't believe you, since you didn't bother to actually post what you found, when you directly responded to someone asking for a citation. Your comment is less than useful, and completely untrustworthy.

You don't have to believe me.

I didn't post it because he (and you) can search for yourselves. Literally first result for "uk illegal meme".

Re: Kim Dotcom's extradition to the U.S. given green light by New Zealand

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Post by dang »

SentientAtom wrote: post #917

You really need not look any further than this thread for what-about-isms and attack-the-man arguments. The fact Hacker News of all places is going to bat for the RIAA and US Industrial Complex leaves me disappointed. Top comment reads something like "Yea but maybe its time to call it quits", well I guess that's how meaningful fights should end, giving up because the adversity is too great or the fight has lasted too…

Please don't take HN threads into offtopic flamewars, especially not meta ones. Those do more damage than the thing you're complaining about.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: Kim Dotcom's extradition to the U.S. given green light by New Zealand

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Post by dang »

AnarchismIsCool wrote: post #930
macocha wrote: post #924

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Naming of Hacker News is like Open AI.

I miss when this place was full of wide-eyed CS undergrads, now it's just "Exploits in Venture Capitalism". Everyone has grown up and gotten themselves high paying, boring adtech jobs so now they feel the need to defend surveillance capitalism and "intellectual property" at every turn. We used to make fun of illegal numbers and censorship efforts, now we support them. I guess you either die a hero or you live long en…

HN has always had lots of startup content; in fact it started life as "Startup News". If anything, there is less such content here than there used to be.
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