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Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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Post by simion314 »

anticensor wrote: post #977
simion314 wrote: post #74

The level of stupidity caused by corporate censorship is extreme in Bard, I ask it(medium one) to generate a few paragraphs of content and it did it. Then I ask it to revise the text and fix some stuff and it refused the task because of plagiarism concern, no amount of logic could make the stupid AI understand that we "own" the f text we created just now and we can edit it.

Self-plagiarism is a real concern in some use cases.

How? The issue with this LLM is that they are to dumb to follow the instructions , so I have no choice then ask them to identify the mistakes they done and fix them, ChatGPT can do that, Bard is incapable of it. did you see this https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39312896#39313567 I was evaluating Bard for work, in case it would have been batter my company would have paid Google but IMO Google has enough money so they don;t care about selling it, they probably want to offer it free in their devices soon, or if not free bundle it . In this case quality can be shit.

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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Post by jaxson999 »

zooq_ai wrote: post #327
ipsum2 wrote: post #82

In the 20 minutes of experimentation, I'm really impressed with the quality of Bard Advanced (Gemini Ultra). The results are as good as GPT-4, and in some cases is better. So far: pros: - better at translation (tried Chinese and Japanese idioms to English) - better at incorporating search results in its answer vs gpt-4 bing cons: - slightly worse at coding - censorship is more annoying (have to ask multiple times abo…

Also as time goes by, it'll get smoothly integrated into docs/gmail/maps/calendar/youtube/search/colab/sheets/android/assistant So Gemini could by your one-stop AI shop for everything. Only Microsoft can match it (but Microsoft doesn't have a popular maps, youtube, mail, smartphone OS service). Apple is another strong player (but they don't have productivity tools like docs, sheets or youtube). It really is Google's…

After spending 45 minutes with Gemini, I don't see this at all.

The only thing I haven't decided yet with it being Google is if it is shockingly unimpressive or unshockingly unimpressive.

chatGPT4 isn't really impressive to me either at this point. This is basically a joke though.

This is going to be competing against chatGPT5 and chatGPT5 has to deliver a huge upgrade in "intelligence" or we are headed head first into the AI hype brick wall.

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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Post by baxuz »

gnicholas wrote: post #630

I'm surprised they got rid of the Bard name. It struck me as a really smart choice since a Bard is someone who said things, and it's an old/archaic enough word to not already be in a zillion other names. Gemini, on the other hand, doesn't strike me as particularly relevant (except that perhaps it's a twin of ChatGPT?), and there are other companies with the same name. EDIT: I can see the advantage of picking a name t…

"Bard" to me implies a person who tells tall tales while sounding entertaining.

In that regard the naming fits perfectly

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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Post by jaybrendansmith »

crazygringo wrote: post #761
gnicholas wrote: post #630

I'm surprised they got rid of the Bard name. It struck me as a really smart choice since a Bard is someone who said things, and it's an old/archaic enough word to not already be in a zillion other names. Gemini, on the other hand, doesn't strike me as particularly relevant (except that perhaps it's a twin of ChatGPT?), and there are other companies with the same name. EDIT: I can see the advantage of picking a name t…

I'm not surprised -- I thought Bard was terrible branding. It's all associations with Shakespeare and poetry and medieval England, and as much as I might personally enjoy those, it's extremely backwards-looking, with archaic connotations. Also it sounds close to "beard" -- hairy stuff. Gemini sounds like the space program -- futuristic, a leap for mankind. It's got all the right emotional associations. It's a constel…

Why not Delphi? Isn't that more like what they are trying to create, an Oracle? And it's like HAL, one step ahead of IBM. Is Delphi just too on-the-nose? Yes, it is also a programming environment, I have many fond memories of Borland Delphi.

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Post by dingclancy »

lolinder wrote: post #248
edu_do_cerrado wrote: post #138

I heavily use Chat GPT's API in my day job, as it is the core of our business (Ai-powered startup). When Gemini Pro launched, me and my team tested it in the same day for our product, but we where disappointed as it is was a bit worse than gpt 3.5 (at least in the same prompts that we already had). I really hope that Gemini Ultra surpass gpt4, it is always exciting to see and use new advanced tech, but I'm still a li…

> it is was a bit worse than gpt 3.5 (at least in the same prompts that we already had) I'm willing to believe that Gemini isn't as good, but my impression was that you expect a new model to not perform as well on your existing prompts because the training set and training methodology is different. That's why one of the major risks of an AI business is vendor lock in, because you spend so much time optimizing a promp…

Indeed, I believe Gemini is equally capable, but its response style significantly differs from ChatGPT 4's. My expectations for how chatbots should communicate have been largely shaped by ChatGPT's approach.

Specifically, Gemini's tendency to structure responses with bullet points and headings from the start doesn't appeal to me. It feels more like receiving an essay in response to a simple question, whereas ChatGPT's responses facilitate a flowing conversation. Gemini aims to provide exhaustive answers, which can be overwhelming when I'm interested in a more open-ended dialogue that smoothly transitions between topics. In essence, Gemini Advanced focuses on delivering detailed answers without allowing much time for reflection.

Therefore, when it comes to preference in RLHF (Reinforcement Learning from Human Feedback) chatbots, ChatGPT-4 is my favorite for its ability to better engage in the type of conversational dynamics I prefer.

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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Post by panarky »

apetresc wrote: post #939
panarky wrote: post #705

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Gemini" must refer to its inherently multimodal origins? It's not a text-based LLM that was later adapted to include other modalities. It was designed from the start to seamlessly understand and work with audio, images, video and text simultaneously. Theoretically, this should give it a more integrated and versatile understanding of the world. The promise is that multimodality baked in from the start, instead of bol…

I get all the multi-modality stuff, but what is it about the word "Gemini" that invokes that, to you?

The constellation Gemini gets its name directly from the Greek mythological twins, Castor and Pollux.

Each twin had different capabilities. Pollux was a powerful warrior while Castor was an intellectual tactician.

The twins possessed an extraordinary fraternal bond, each loyal and devoted to protecting the other.

Together, they accomplished what they couldn't do individually. Their combined strengths made them far more effective than either could be alone.

Just as text, images, audio and video convey different knowledge, relationships and reasoning than text by itself, their combined strengths in a single model should be more powerful than any model trained on only one modality.

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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Post by emptysongglass »

datavirtue wrote: post #868
crazygringo wrote: post #761

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not surprised -- I thought Bard was terrible branding. It's all associations with Shakespeare and poetry and medieval England, and as much as I might personally enjoy those, it's extremely backwards-looking, with archaic connotations. Also it sounds close to "beard" -- hairy stuff. Gemini sounds like the space program -- futuristic, a leap for mankind. It's got all the right emotional associations. It's a constel…

This. It creeps women out. It's difficult enough getting them to use an AI tool. My wife commented on this when she saw it in Google News. Something about some dude in a medieval pub.

Bard doesn't creep women out. That's an extraordinary assumption you're making based on one anecdote. Not everything needs to be needlessly politicized.

The most popular TTRPG has Bard as a class and they (like every other class) is as gender-neutral as you can get.

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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Post by anonymouskimmer »

resters wrote: post #870
anonymouskimmer wrote: post #677

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For me it's associated with Gemini crypto and their horrible Gemini Earn investments in Genesis: https://www.web3isgoinggreat.com/?id=gemini-genesis-and-dcg-...

The crypto Gemini was named after the Winklevoss twins .

If that was the case it would have been named Winklevii. :P
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