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Re: Twitter Is DDOSing Itself

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Post by mcint »

kennywinker wrote: post #421
mcint wrote: post #382

Matters little, but the rate limits are opening back up. 6k/600/300 -> 8k/800/400 (~noon) -> 10k/1k/500 (~3pm) https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1675214274627530754 and self-reply

I can't read that. "Something went wrong". And I believe under the new logged-in-only rules, I wouldn't even be able to read it if the site was up. Twitter links are now poisoned, and basically useless.

I did quote a summary of the announcement contents and timestamps.

We'll see how self-sabatoging the strategy is. It's cost cutting and customer-squeezing season, and as a user, I'm as unenthused as you.

Re: Twitter Is DDOSing Itself

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Post by whywhywouldyou »

joeythedolphin wrote: post #926
voganmother42 wrote: post #667

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is this really easier than consulting a calendar? Its the weekend before the 4th of July, the independence day for USA - many employers give employees Monday and Tuesday off, creating a potential four day break during what is typically very good weather - that being said Twitter is presumably (still) an international company with people in all different holiday areas.

Not everybody has US calendars.

But everyone here has access to the internet and hopefully some really basic deductive reasoning skills.

Re: Twitter Is DDOSing Itself

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Post by brigandish »

smcl wrote: post #971
brigandish wrote: post #966

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A few reasons, the first being that I can actually log in again after 2 or 3 years, as the login was broken for me for that long so I can't say I was a fan of what was going on before. I had several frustrations before but that, as you can imagine, pissed me off quite a bit. The second being free speech, I'm a big supporter of that and there's certainly more of that now. It's not perfect but I'm not going to throw th…

It sounds like the login problem and the free speech policy (which I think we won't agree on but that's by the by) are the main issues. But it's interesting we have completely alternate impressions how it was before/after Musk. After the initial growth explosion when Twitter launched (and a few encounters with the fail whale) it stabilised and always felt pretty reliable for me. Whereas now downtime is commonplace ag…

> It sounds like the login problem ... are the main issues.

I had a long list before that, off the top of my head:

- notifications were broken (disappearing or not appearing at all) which included DMs, or appearing late

- the follow/unfollow problem that so many complain(ed) about

- the algorithm dominating the main feed (the For you and Following is at least an improvement on this, if not a fix). Not really a Twitter only problem that one.

- lists was the old fix for the main feed problem, but they would go missing at times and set up was a pain

- clicking on "More replies" (or whatever it is/was) and they disappear/don't appear, sometimes on tweets I've already seen

- Let's not forget when they last killed off 3rd party apps en masse[1]

- changing settings often wouldn't work, and are still a UI mess today

Related to the freedom of speech thing because the ways it was implemented lead directly to them:

- shadow banning (I hate that everywhere, including the hellban here). Even searching a particular account was blocked, which is a pain when you're trying to find something you know exists.

- watching stats drop precipitously on tweets after Twitter had put their thumb on the scale. Shouting into the void isn't a fun experience. Watching interesting accounts wither also was a waste. Still plenty of trolls and bots though.

- trending topics being curated. Possibly Twitter's real USP is instant news, the trends can give an idea of what people are really talking about at a glance and get you straight into breaking news. Most of that was gone. They're worth a look again.

And several forgotten problems, I'm certain of it, I could've spent all day going through them, at the time. What a pile of steaming rubbish!

I often wondered if the first half of this list should go under the second half of this list because most of them appeared after Twitter became blatant in its ways, and some of them occur on other social networks too, but only on contentious topics (it amazes me how little is said about the heavy censorship Facebook engages in, must have a better PR department than Twitter. Maybe that's why Musk fired them all).

Then you find you can't log in often or at all. When I saw that Project Veritas video about Twitter, I believed it, because it made sense that no one was doing any real work.

[1] https://thenextweb.com/news/twitter-4

Re: Twitter Is DDOSing Itself

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Post by beaned »

1attice wrote: post #505
beaned wrote: post #442

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's definitely a strong element of people here rooting for Twitter to fail because they dislike Elon's politics.

It is -- and I cannot stress this enough -- entirely OK to root for the failure of a company that is owned, directed and dominated by an odious person with abhorrent politics. Compare: - hoping Ballmer-era Microsoft would fail in their attempts to snuff out Linux - hoping that USSR would fail in their attempts to snuff out large numbers of their own citizens - hoping that the Confederates would fail at snuffing out r…

None of your examples actually align with the general sentiment here. In your examples, you cite specific goals that should fail, which may be part of a broader approach which includes more noble goals.

For example, you say that Microsoft should fail in attempting to snuff out Linux, not that Microsoft should fail generally.

You say that the USSR should fail to kill their own people, not that the USSR should fail to thrive as a people or a nation.

In this case the equivalent would be to call for Twitter to fail at... what exactly? Free speech?

I think you've been gotten. You don't perceive these examples as equivocations when they are, and it is blinded by dislike for a figure you disagree with rather than a specific bad goal.

Re: Twitter Is DDOSing Itself

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Post by maxlin »

WeylandYutani wrote: post #870
maxlin wrote: post #845

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's nothing. Instead hopping on the bandwagon hating on the thing we all use and care about, a situation where you would know a solution but are not allowed to act because of fear of even trying anything is so much worse. Especially when you know of it for a very long time and are not even allowed to try, while also being ostracized and being "that guy" for suggesting it repeatedly. Talking of different technical…

Don't use Twitter and don't care in the slightest if it goes down. Will admit that seeing a billionaire go mental is funny. Petty I know.

Didn't ask and go stuff your worthless ignorance somewhere else. It's people like you why we can't have nice things.

Re: Twitter Is DDOSing Itself

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Post by tzekid »

didip wrote: post #967
pc_edwin wrote: post #790

Its funny how the entirety of silicon valley just forgot that Twitter was infamous for their unholy mess of a codebase which at some points looked like it had a secret mission to increase world entropy and terraform the planet. I still remember watching podcasts, reading blogposts, hearing prominent VC's like Elad talking about etc.. Now everbody silent because Elon is the baba yaga...

Any reading materials on how messy the codebase was?

Not quite reading material, but look up George Hotz's videos about it. I think there's one Twitter Space he hosted / recorded where Musk was also in there.

Hotz is very vocal and blunt about the messy codebase situation at Twitter.

Re: Twitter Is DDOSing Itself

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Post by taskforcegemini »

voganmother42 wrote: post #667
TheHappyOddish wrote: post #664

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What holiday is it?

Is this really easier than consulting a calendar? Its the weekend before the 4th of July, the independence day for USA - many employers give employees Monday and Tuesday off, creating a potential four day break during what is typically very good weather - that being said Twitter is presumably (still) an international company with people in all different holiday areas.

not everything is obvious to everyone all the time. what's wrong with people asking questions? to other parts of the world american customs are weird/foreign, for instance regarding getting a day off.

Re: Twitter Is DDOSing Itself

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Post by dcunit3d »

runsWphotons wrote: post #697

Is there anywhere in this thread where there is actual info and not just people complaining about and taking shots at Elon Musk because they dont like him or his politics?

yeh, i tried, but it got flagged quick.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36561808

it's a 429 error, so the developer who posted this is an idiot. they're not even wrong. the 429 doesn't even touch twitter's infrastructure

https://blog.twitter.com/engineering/en_us/topics/infrastruc...

Re: Twitter Is DDOSing Itself

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Post by dcunit3d »

DecXicon-28 wrote: post #247

Unlike what people imagine, the selfDDOS bug that occurs does not burden requests to the Twitter system, but becomes a loop for users requesting access.

yeh, i tried to mention this, but it got flagged quick. it's unbelievable that my median salary for the past decade is $3,000 after several years of "Startup" followed by "How to Start a Reboot of My Life"

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36561808

it's a 429 error, so the developer who posted this is an idiot. they're not even wrong. the 429 doesn't even touch twitter's infrastructure

https://blog.twitter.com/engineering/en_us/topics/infrastruc...

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