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Yeah! I had a 5S. I loved that little guy. Another reason I got the mini for the angles like the 5S. How much bigger is it? 13 is okay. But I should make it go back to 5S size
I still use my SE (first gen) which is the same form factor. I love this phone, and I regret the day it’ll be so far behind the latest supported iOS that I have to stop using it.
Nokia G22 is a good budget phone. The SOC - Tiger 606 has two big and six small CPU cores, while most budget SOCs have eight small cores. Together with 4GB RAM makes for mostly lag free UI. 4GB/64GB is the minimal config to run comfortably recent versions of Android. On top of that it comes with modern design, USB type C port, large battery (can easily last two days of moderate use) and fast charging (20W max).
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There is a huge gab between high and low and devices. Some manufacturers will want to sell - and many consumers will buy- a few models that are more expensive than $150 but less than $1000.
Maybe I’m missing the hyperbole, but almost all iPhones and Google Pixels fit into that gap. The base iPhone 14 is $799, the iPhone SE is $429, and there are older model iPhones in between. Even the base iPhone 14 Pro is $999, technically in the range. A Pixel 7 is $599, a Pixel 7 Pro is $899, and a Pixel 6a is $449. There’s perhaps a gap in the $150-$400 range, but used phones can definitely be found there, and I wo…
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I don't know if the US market is very different, but in Spain I'd say like 80% of the phones people buy fit into that gap... Below $150 you only have the cheapest models by brands like Xiaomi, and over $1000 you only have the flagships. There are plenty of models in the middle, not only Pixels but also a plethora of offerings from Oppo, Samsung, Xiaomi, Vivo, Honor, Poco, etc. Name any [X,X+100] interval in that rang…
Not having an iphone in the US is impossibile unless you have unlimited SMS's /s
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And where were those when I got my current set of headphones in 2006 (!) Why should I throw away headphones that work perfectly fine (or constantly lose and buy new adapters)? It's not like removing the headphone jack helped in slimness or battery runtime – the iPod shuffle had a headphone jack and that worked just fine, almost 20 years ago!
You’re right. Why would I rebuy my perfectly good cassette tapes and buy CDs and then later on pay $12/month for a streaming service. I really shouldn’t have had to get rid of all of SCSI peripherals either. And Apple really should haven’t abandoned the 32 pin connector either on the first iPod. All of my accessories like my cassette to 30 pin adapter that let me pause and play my iPod from tape deck became obsolete…
We replaced SCSI with SATA. Or music cassettes with CDs.
But the headphone jack is and remains a standard. My audio interfaces have XLR, 6.3 mm or 3.5 mm jacks. My cameras and Zoom recorders use XLR, mini XLR or 3.5 mm. My AV receiver uses 3.5 mm, 6.3 mm or XLR (or banana plugs for passive speakers).
These connectors remain the standard across desktop computers, laptops, audio interfaces, professional condenser microphones, mirrorless cameras, audio recorders, etc.
I don't see a reason to throw away expensive my Sennheiser headphones nor my IEMs, just because a handful of devices in one industry want to force me into paying more money.
> Btw, did you also complain when you couldn’t use your 32 pin iPod accessories with your Shuffle?
No, back then I complained that “made for iPod” required a proprietary port which wasn't compatible with either mini-USB nor micro-USB devices. I never bought, owned, or will own a device with proprietary connectors.
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And require me to throw away headphones that have worked fine for decades. Even this nokia phone has a 3.5mm port, why doesn't Google support it anymore?
Dude, just get a USB-C to 3.5mm DAC adaptor. It's not expensive.
The headphone jack is not just for music, it's a versatile industry-standard connector. Being able to swap the same devices between a phone, zoom audio recorders, the monitoring out of my Ninja V, or audio interfaces when editing is a valuable advantage of a standard connector.
And the entire rest of the industry continues using 3.5mm, 6.3mm and XLR. It's only a handful of phones that try to force you into wasting your money.
And it comes with a 3mm headphone jack! Hallelujah!! I’m so, so glad someone is stepping up to fill this niche. My only complaint, and it’s kind if a big one, is that the screen is too damn big. I’m tired of phone manufacturers forcing me to carry a television in my pocket. I want something small that I can hold in one hand without a pop socket. I’ll trade performance, camera quality, basically anything for a phone w…
I was on your same boat until I actually owned an iPhone 12 mini. In reality, it sacrificed usability and battery life to achieve that small form factor. I had to bail on the phone because it was physically straining my eyes.
Our phones are basically pocket computers. That's why the screens are big. They're used for everything.
Here's the other thing about the 3mm headphone jack on phones: it's irrelevant to anyone with enough disposable income to afford wireless headphones. I personally own the second generation AirPods Pro, and to be honest they're completely mind-blowing compared to what we thought was possible on a technical level just 5-10 years ago.
Yes, I spent a lot of money on them. Yes, they are perhaps a disposable item considering how difficult/impossible it is to replace their tiny little batteries.
But would I go back to using wired headphones and getting them caught in a bunch of shit? No, not ever. No amount of dollar savings or latency shavings could convince me.
I still use wired headphones on my desktop computer, but that makes a lot more sense in that context. I'm not taking wires onto the train or the bus or the airplane ever again.
The reason budget phones like Nokias have headphone jacks and sometimes even microSD slots is because their customers will not pay for upgraded internal storage or expensive wireless headphones. On the other side of the market, companies like Samsung and Apple can upsell a lot of their flagship phone customers and give them a nudge by removing that port.
It's the same reason why you don't see a number of options packages on a Toyota that you can get on a Lexus that's based on the same vehicle.
Is the removal of the headphone jack a shady tactic? Maybe it is. On the other hand, maybe it's just an obsolete port for that market segment. If I am using an expensive gaming PC, do I need my graphics card to output to VGA or DVI? Of course not. But I might need that if I'm buying a PC to hook up to a 15 year old monitor in a school computer lab.
Supported with updates for 3 years? So you'll change the battery once, I guess.
If it gets popular enough on XDA, you can bet on another few years of updates from the community. - Sent from my Xiaomi A2 Lite (released 2018), currently running Android 13
Heck grapheneOS stops supporting devices shortly after google because they can't really offer full security coverage.
Nokia G22 is a good budget phone. The SOC - Tiger 606 has two big and six small CPU cores, while most budget SOCs have eight small cores. Together with 4GB RAM makes for mostly lag free UI. 4GB/64GB is the minimal config to run comfortably recent versions of Android. On top of that it comes with modern design, USB type C port, large battery (can easily last two days of moderate use) and fast charging (20W max).
Why the hell is memory/storage in phones so stagnant. They could put a terabyte in there, don't tell me they couldn't.