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If it isn't obvious this is the new norm for Twitter. Elon is making up the rules as he goes and ruling like a pissed off insecure reddit mod. I don't buy into all the freedom of speech rhetoric he has been spewing. This is about control and fueling his ego. It is a real shame because I wanted to continue using Twitter like I always have, but I don't think that will be possible.

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No one seems to have mentioned the really interesting aspect here: Twitter must be bleeding DAUs. There are other indicators too. After the takeover they dropped the login wall, but it is back, and way more aggressive than before. You can't even scroll down to see more tweets now, or view replies. The ads are also really weird and odd. Either their ad targeting system is broken, or they just lost so many advertisers…

> After the takeover they dropped the login wall, but it is back, and way more aggressive than before. At least in one small aspect it's better now: the X in the corner is back, so you can dismiss it. Shortly before the takeover, the X in the login wall was hidden unless you somehow found out the trick (you had to click as if you were going to login with an username and password, and that second form had the X in the…

> second form had the X in the corner to dismiss it

Woah, I've never gotten that far. Tried to avoid all twitter links but if I did need to view one I'd just use nitter.

Re: Twitter suspends pg's account [fixed]

#983

No one seems to have mentioned the really interesting aspect here: Twitter must be bleeding DAUs. There are other indicators too. After the takeover they dropped the login wall, but it is back, and way more aggressive than before. You can't even scroll down to see more tweets now, or view replies. The ads are also really weird and odd. Either their ad targeting system is broken, or they just lost so many advertisers…

> Twitter must be bleeding DAUs Secondary indicators seems to indicate DAU is surging. I don't know why you'd think it would drop from controversy this kind of shit is what people live on twitter for. Real question is is it sustainable and can they actually monetize it. > The ads are also really weird and odd. Twitter has always been an embarrassment in terms of targeted ads.

> Twitter has always been an embarrassment in terms of targeted ads.

I now seem to be getting lots of ads from Saudi Aramco, and I have no clue what part of my Twitter activity would indicate interest in them. Running out of ad inventory seems like the most plausible explanation.

Re: Twitter suspends pg's account [fixed]

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You are wrong about what PG said. In fact, his Tweet included an explanation of where to find a link to his Mastodon account. Elon has made it clear that these blatant attempts at ban evasion are not allowed.

Actually, Elon just had paul's account unsuspended. Regardless of the reasoning, it makes much of your argumentation moot (irrelevant) because it's clear you don't understand Twitter or Musk's reasoning (nor does Musk).

The situation is very simple.

1. PG broke one of Twitter's rules:

> At both the Tweet level and the account level, we will remove any free promotion of prohibited 3rd-party social media platforms, such as linking out (i.e. using URLs) to any of the below platforms on Twitter, or providing your handle without a URL:

2. Twitter suspended PG's account

3. Twitter got rid of the rule.

4. PG had his account reinstated.

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#985

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Explain the success of his previous companies without lying or references left wing conspiracies? I genuinely want to see an answer to this. Can't state things as fact that 5 seconds on Google can disprove I already know the answers are going to be he uses his secret emerald mine to power the self landing rockets

So when you say “his” companies, do you mean: PayPal (not founded by Musk) Tesla (not founded by Musk) The Boring Company (only existed to de-rail a planned road development that annoyed Musk) SpaceX (I’ll give you this one)

Yea this is a fail. Honestly be more interesting if people made more genuine arguments. He clearly paid a major role in Tesla. This is answer above is a whole lot of LARPing

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> So many people are out of touch with reality, it really is bizarre.

My irony-meter exploded at the end of your comment. It was a beautiful mushroom cloud!

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>Wow. PG did not even post any links, he pretty much just said "I have a Mastodon account." And just like that, banned. Twitter may have lost more than a million users since Elon Musk took over : https://www.technologyreview.com/2022/11/03/1062752/twitter-... [1 hour ago - 4 comments] : https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34046074 This does Not bode well; links to Mastodon, including your Mastodon account in your pr…

A million users is insignificant compared to the number of advertisers who have abandoned them, and it's probably causing cash flow problems which is one reason why he was so desperate to chase people away and/or fire them, and why Twitter has been liquidating equipment (that and the huge debt he's generated on Twitter's books.) Remember how Twitter has stopped paying rent on a bunch of its offices? And Musk just cas…

>A million users is insignificant

True, however high profile account contents matter to both advertisers and other twitter uses.

>Stephen Fry, who last week tweeted an image of Scrabble letters spelling out ‘goodbye’, and abandoned his 12.5 million followers!

Stephen Fry quits Twitter following Elon Musk’s takeover : https://www.nme.com/en_au/news/tv/stephen-fry-quits-twitter-...

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I would be willing to bet that Elon follows pg... and he probably took personal offense to him leaving.

"If I can't have you I'll destroy you".

I used to have computers named after dune characters, but I never thought pretending to be Paul Atreides was a rational business strategy.

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He’s a less self aware Steve Jobs. For whatever reason people will throw themselves on the tracks for them.

Elon is a yes-man. Steve Jobs was a no-man. Being a yes-man doesn't make you categorically stupid, but a no-man is strictly further along in some of the dimensions of intellect and creativity.

I don't think you can build tesla and spacex without being a no-man in certain fields. It's just that Elon got bored, and he entered a new realm of a social network product, not an engineering product, and he's finding out quickly how different that is.

At the same time, I do think Elon's asperger type genius is definitely more suited to engineering startups, and Job's super sensitive artist level narcissism is more suited to UX intensive startups. Elon ventured where he shouldn't have.

Re: Twitter suspends pg's account [fixed]

#990

Wow. PG did not even post any links, he pretty much just said "I have a Mastodon account." And just like that, banned. Looks like now you're not allowed to so much as mention that you use other websites on the internet besides Twitter.

Hijacking top comment to note Elon Musk has commented: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1604616426114932737 > Paul’s account will be restored shortly And https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1604616863673208832 > Going forward, there will be a vote for major policy changes. My apologies. Won’t happen again.

So sad. It would have been better if it had stayed banned, really would have given that extra push to mastodon/etc.

Does anyone think Elon can recover this situation? I think he'll have to re-float twitter and have an independent CEO, and sell another $15B of Telsa stock to pay back the debt and get some operating capital. With time and rational management, he might be able to then sell out, only losing ~$15B.

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