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Re: President Daniels responds to Chinese student's harassment

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Post by Qub3d »

mytailorisrich wrote: post #699
Qub3d wrote: post #678

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My family hosted a Taiwanese exchange student when I was in high school. One day, he and I were out seeing the town. He discovered a Chinese Tea house in an out-of-the-way corner, and we stopped in. The owner, a Chinese expat, greeted us enthusiastically and personally sat down to serve us tea. The conversation was lovely; she was explaining the source of the tea, the preparation and serving method, etc. and I was ju…

This story sounds doubtful to me. It's perfectly OK for a Chinese to say that they are from Taiwan, and Chinese, be it from the mainland or Taiwan, always say that: They're from Taiwan, Beijing, Guangdong, you name it. It's like saying which state you're from in the US. No-one ever says "Chinese Taipei", certainly not among Chinese, which is just some political compromise, mostly in the Olympic Committee. The only is…

Hi there!

Sorry if there is confusion; it was several years ago and I don't remember it word-for-word -- you're probably right about Chinese Taipei. The student was very, very gracious and anglicized a lot of things when translating. He even used an English name in addition to his normal name.

I imagine, for example, the hostess caught some nuance I missed, or followed up in Chinese to confirm his opinion on sovereignty. I was really just following tone and facial expression.

I could call and ask him if he remembers, but from my understanding, he unfortunately has to have difficult conversations like that quite a lot, and I don't know if this one would even stand out.

Re: President Daniels responds to Chinese student's harassment

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Post by tgb »

satronaut wrote: post #732
tgb wrote: post #511

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I'm confused by your complaint. Gas prices heave generally been heading down recently as best as I can tell. Gasbuddy.com/charts

From your source, gas was an average of ~2.40 on jan 20th. Rite after biden gets in gas spikes, peaking around 3.40 end of october. Now it's around 3.20. Still up by 80c nationally. But CNN is saying "gas is going down" trying to give biden a favorable image, instead of saying "Gas is still way up because of the ESG policies of the biden administration"

The headline from CNN I found is: "Finally some relief: Gasoline and natural gas prices are falling". Does that sound particularly positive? Not really, it actually emphasizes how bad it had been and how it's something that even needs relief. You'd rather they inject politics into their statement of fact headlines like your example? Is that even true? It's also been high recently in Europe so I'm skeptical.

This example is grasping at straws to find an example of bias in the media. Please reconsider that this bias may be much smaller than you think if this is what it manifests as. The comparison to 1984 is absurd. They're saying "2+2=4" and you're saying that shows bias since that's what Biden says.

Edit: I thought to check what Fox says about gas prices and of course the top hit for that was "CNN gushes over falling gas prices". Yikes, talk about bias in news and I'm guessing that's where this crazy idea comes from! I'll take CNN over that any day, and you should too.

Re: President Daniels responds to Chinese student's harassment

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Post by powerapple »

ilamont wrote: post #330

In 2019, Frances Hui, a student at Emerson College in Boston, wrote an opinion piece for the student newspaper titled "I am from Hong Kong, not China” (1) and she was subjected to doxxing and death threats: The most jarring comment came from a Chinese student at Emerson, who made Hui’s personal Facebook posts public. In one post, he wrote a comment that translates to: “Whomever opposes my greatest China, no matter ho…

“Whomever opposes my greatest China, no matter how far they are, must be executed.” originated from East Han (BC 35). It has been popularized by recent patriot movies.

Re: President Daniels responds to Chinese student's harassment

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Post by dang »

bllguo wrote: post #721
vaxman wrote: post #637

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this is exactly the white savior crap that much of the world hates from the US. the sheer arrogance to think that even a significant fraction of Taiwanese would be interested in moving to America, let alone the entire populace. And then the gall to suggest _Ohio, the Mojave, and Alaska_. Bit on the nose, don't you think? I don't understand how you think this rhetoric helps anyone. I guess it lets Americans puff out t…

Please don't take HN threads further into flamewar hell. Doing that is worse than the original offense, because if people didn't fan flames, the original provocation would simply fizzle, as it deserved. Instead, you amplified it, as well as egregiously breaking HN's rules with your own comment.

If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.

Re: President Daniels responds to Chinese student's harassment

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Post by dang »

siculars wrote: post #748
bllguo wrote: post #721

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this is exactly the white savior crap that much of the world hates from the US. the sheer arrogance to think that even a significant fraction of Taiwanese would be interested in moving to America, let alone the entire populace. And then the gall to suggest _Ohio, the Mojave, and Alaska_. Bit on the nose, don't you think? I don't understand how you think this rhetoric helps anyone. I guess it lets Americans puff out t…

No, no, this is about exactly right. When the CCP comes for Taiwan, the exodus will be on a scale unseen in our generation. It seems your family history has been blessed to not know this sort of existential crisis. For generations now, The US of America is, actually and literally, viewed as the land of salvation and opportunity for millions of people around the world. Do not pretend that it is not.

Please do not take HN threads further into flamewar hell, and please keep personal attacks off of HN. Not cool.

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Re: President Daniels responds to Chinese student's harassment

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Post by dang »

Turing_Machine wrote: post #890
mcguire wrote: post #869

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How would you respond to being asked (forced?) to move to Ohio? Or perhaps Germany?

If my alternative were to live under the PRC government? I'd be grateful. You?

Please do not take HN threads further into flamewar hell. This site is not for this kind of thing, whatsoever.

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Re: President Daniels responds to Chinese student's harassment

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Post by dang »

mcguire wrote: post #869
Turing_Machine wrote: post #832

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Okay, I'll bite. Why is Alaska "insulting"? Note: I live there, and it's awesome. Ohio is also a perfectly fine place to live.

How would you respond to being asked (forced?) to move to Ohio? Or perhaps Germany?

Please do not take HN threads further into flamewar hell. This site is not for this kind of thing, whatsoever.

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Re: President Daniels responds to Chinese student's harassment

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Post by dang »

bllguo wrote: post #728
coupdejarnac wrote: post #704

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I think you're over-literally interpreting what above poster said. Above poster probably doesn't speak Mandarin so their retelling might be missing some nuance.

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Please stop taking HN threads further into nationalistic flamewar.

Believe me, I understand the frustrations of representing a minority/contrarian point of view, but if you vent that frustration by tossing flamebait around, you're not only damaging the container we all depend on here, you're discrediting what you're trying to advocate for. That helps nothing and is not in your interests.

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