Now as soon as they add a lightningbolt port (not to be confused with thunderbolt) for the (ahem) headphones jack, then we can finally do away with all of the hideous dongles.
MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch
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Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch
#982For me personally, they hit it out of the park -- except for the notch, which seems like a complete showstopper to me at first sight. Maybe it's not so bad in practice if games and full-screen videos keep that whole strip solid black? But almost all the screenshots are of fullscreen apps, so it seems Apple thinks it looks a bit ungainly too.
It doesn’t seem to bother phone users that much.
Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch
#983I won't be getting one, because the M1 Air is currently more than enough for comfortable webdev, but I'm genuinely happy for people who will be getting one, because those things are incredible!
Yes. Agreed.
Most people do not need the new notebooks. They would be content with the Air and the 13-inch Pro.
Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch
#984Everything they’ve said about the new MacBook Pros is extremely promising, but they had to add a notch to the screen. Just why? All for the sake of reducing the top screen border by a couple of millimeters.
Try this: Instead of thinking "Boo, they took away part of the screen with a notch" think "Yay! They extended the screen a few mm on either side of the camera" If you want to join us in the cult of Mac, learning little contortions like that will make you a lot happier.
Agreed on this point.
Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch
#985M1 aside, it's pretty clear that Jony Ive was holding back Apple's designs here. While he worked at Apple it was thinness at all costs, right after he leaves the MBP suddenly gets a tiny bit thicker in order to return a huge chunk of the features that were previously removed. Probably the only thing on this new laptop that can't be pinned on his departure is the M1 series of chips.
The 14-inch actually gets barely noticeably thinner.
Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch
#986Can't believe they did so many positive changes with the MBP only to add the notch from the phone in too. Almost the perfect update. Does this mean every app in full screen has to be updated to account for it? > posted in wrong thread so copying here
Maybe I've drunk the Apple Kool-Aid, but there's another way to look at this: it's a perfectly rectangular 16:10 display, plus they've added an extra (albeit imperfect) strip along the top, 74 pixels high, allowing them to push the macOS menu bar into the bezel, leaving you with a clean and unencumbered 16:10 desktop area for your content.
Yep!
Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch
#987That notch thing will put me off! Ugliest impractical thing causing additional efforts and potential troubles unnecessarily. Avoiding iPhones with that, will do the same with laptops. And that magsafe -> no magsafe -> magsafe again disarray! Come on, make up your f mind. I held off buying new computer looong, did not want to leave MagSafe, it recently died so was forced into USB-C charging, which I did not want at al…
You know it still supports USB-C charging right? Rather than confusion, I would see it as Apple finally turning things around and getting back on a road that is less "design above all else"
How could you possibly now that, especially after decade long design fallacy over practicality and with this notch thing?! You have no foundation for this claim that it will happen just based one lone step back into the right direction.
The best we can say is that after intensionally ruining practicality for the elusive gods of design there was a little light of hope, that's it!
(btw.: "it presumably charges through thunderbolt 4 ports too")
Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch
#988That notch thing will put me off! Ugliest impractical thing causing additional efforts and potential troubles unnecessarily. Avoiding iPhones with that, will do the same with laptops. And that magsafe -> no magsafe -> magsafe again disarray! Come on, make up your f mind. I held off buying new computer looong, did not want to leave MagSafe, it recently died so was forced into USB-C charging, which I did not want at al…
You can blame Apple for having made dumb decisions in the past, but you can't blame them for fixing them now. Also, what additional efforts and problems with the notch are you talking about ?
They had one single lone little sign of doing something right, don't let me quote Mr Wolf from the Pulp Fiction here please! : /
Long, long, long experiences show that Apple don't care about practicality as muchs as appearances! One swallow makes no summer, as they say. I balme them not for the step into the right direction, please read the lines, please!, I blame them for the mindless chaos they caused and complain that I will not be shuffled around by them again, I am burn, they made it.
Btw you know that te space of the notch does not display nothing, someone has to take care of it! That is an effort avoidable, as ALL other solutions show that. Also read posts about the notch on the phones, this is not a new thing, now it is escalated unnecessarily. We will see how this affect existing software with long menus, lots of manu bar icons, resolution change, screen shots. It has to be considered when it is there, compared to if it wasn't.
Too little too late!
Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch
#989That notch thing will put me off! Ugliest impractical thing causing additional efforts and potential troubles unnecessarily. Avoiding iPhones with that, will do the same with laptops. And that magsafe -> no magsafe -> magsafe again disarray! Come on, make up your f mind. I held off buying new computer looong, did not want to leave MagSafe, it recently died so was forced into USB-C charging, which I did not want at al…
No matter what changes apples implements (even if its reverting to things people wanted back), people like you will always find a way to complain. Having used an iphone for a while, the notch really isn't noticeable, and I'd trade it for having a thick black border at the top any day.
Open your eyes, people will find problem with stupid unpractical ideas, not the good ones, don't you read the internet?!
Read my post at least please then, welcome changes are mixed with anger on repeated stupidity and avoidable inconsistency, questionable design elements just for design upsetting practice on a product made for serious use. Why don't you read the whole post not just the part you don't like?! : /
Let me quote myself: "kudos to remove touchbar", "have (have?) proper keyboard" "hallelujah for having HDMI again". How can you reliably say people always find errors in everything? Only find error when there are errors for f sake!
I use iPhone too and the notch is not noticable because it is not there! Same for my MacBook, all of them!!
Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch
#990I have been very happy with my M1 systems, and I’m looking forward to getting function keys back. However, the SD card capability is coming back at a time when pros are moving to CFExpress cards.
Unfortunately, there are some form factor differences between these new, much faster, cards used in higher end Sony, Cannon, and Nikon cameras. It’s a bit confusing since there are three types of CFExpress cards—I wonder if the new MacBook Pros can read any of them?