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Re: OnlyFans to block sexually explicit videos starting in October

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To be more specific, it was a direct competitor to Patreon, but patreon banned porn and onlyfans didn’t, thus the market differentiation.

Patreon has decidedly 18+ content on it. It even has 18+ interstitial pages to make sure you’re 18+

what are 18+ interstitial pages? I didn't find much on 1st page of ddg

Re: OnlyFans to block sexually explicit videos starting in October

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This is going to be corporate suicide on a greater scale than Tumblr's policy. I say greater because OnlyFans is/was still on a massive upswing whereas Tumblr was 10 years past its peak already when the nails went in the coffin. Edit: I understand this is supposedly not their choice.

This is the least of their problems and I am amazed none of their executives is not yet in jail: "The children selling explicit videos on OnlyFans" https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-57255983

Thanks for explaining what this is about. There are lots of sites our there where sex workers ply their trade, and as far as I can tell have been allowed to do so by the payment processors for literally decades. The dozens of caming sites for a start. OnlyFans being banned for it while other sites are doing it far more openly would be bizarre.

However those sites now all have strong 230 compliance regimes, and I gather OnlyFans doesn't. OnlyFans could have implemented something similar. PornHub went down that route when confronted with similar pressure - they got of rid of all video's that went compliant. But OnlyFans.com have chosen not to. I wonder why?

Re: OnlyFans to block sexually explicit videos starting in October

#983

This is going to be corporate suicide on a greater scale than Tumblr's policy. I say greater because OnlyFans is/was still on a massive upswing whereas Tumblr was 10 years past its peak already when the nails went in the coffin. Edit: I understand this is supposedly not their choice.

This is a late reply but my interpretation of the events is that the payment processors drove this decision and I think that would be for one or two reasons.

1) There is a high chargeback and dispute rate on porn. I don't know why.

2) OnlyFans has underage performers who get on there using fake IDs and there is not a very good way to stop that.

Re: OnlyFans to block sexually explicit videos starting in October

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You are blaming the wrong party! Your friends shouldn't rely on income from one customer who holds all the cards (did your friends negotiate a contract with OF with the help of a lawyer?). Lesson learned for them. They can now run their own sites and do marketing etc. themselves and learn how to run a business.

Yet more skills they have to have... also, I presume OnlyFans helps with the pipeline. (Much more likely to be comfortable clicking on an onlyfans link than a link to an unknown website)

Yeah but it’s almost a trope of the 4 hour week beach laptop business decimated by the big tech company, be it SEO changes, AdWords changes, being banned from Twitter, relying on a Facebook page, yadda yadda.

They are in business and need to adapt. If they can’t hack it take my route: employment in a demand industry.

Re: OnlyFans to block sexually explicit videos starting in October

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Does anyone else here feel the Onlyfans phenomenon is just exploiting sad lonely men who’d be better off leaving the house, doing some exercise and trying to eat healthier and build their IRL social networks? This whole cam-girls making a fortune this way seems somehow more dishonest than normal porn to me, maybe because it’s about these guys (who can never have relationships with these women) building a personal and…

I agree with your general premise it's exploiting loneliness and the clients aren't always engaging in these things in a healthy way (see also, parasocial relationships with streamers, etc). But I'm not sure if there is any targeted regulation that would actually achieve harm reduction. Banning it will just send it underground and make it more dangerous for the participants, and harder for people to seek help. Maybe tax it and then re-invest the proceeds into the mental health?

Re: OnlyFans to block sexually explicit videos starting in October

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I assume this will lead to Onlyfans's effective death, much as Tumblr's porn ban seems to have led to, or hastened, its death. Reddit seems to have resisted whatever calls it must be getting to eliminate porn. So far at least. It will ban or quarantine some heretical ideas, but porn is still there.

Reddit doesn't let people pay directly for content. You can gift awards but those aren't really worth anything.

> Reddit doesn't let people pay directly for content. You can gift awards but those aren't really worth anything.

Worth noting this scenario is even less similar than as you wrote it.

Not only can’t you pay content creators on Reddit, but the awards, are you paying Reddit for hosting the creator.

Reddit gets money, creator gets a png. It’s a really bad deal, and I’m not sure what kind of lunatic buys Reddit awards.

Re: OnlyFans to block sexually explicit videos starting in October

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> Only two hits for 'trafficking' in the discussion The absolute state of liberal cum brain.

Breaking the site guidelines will get you banned here. Please review the rules and stick to them: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: OnlyFans to block sexually explicit videos starting in October

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With all due respect, the fact that anyone is forced into porn to get housing be safe from abusive partners is the indictment of a society. I get that it's a de facto situation for some, but let's not drop the onus on "morality police", payment processors, and OnlyFans for a massive societal failure to help vulnerable people. You could take that argument as far as you want (prostitution, drug sales, etc). There is so…

A huge chunk of the planet is forced into jobs they don't like to provide for themselves and their families. What's so "dignifying" about a job getting humiliated by entitled customers in retail or waitressing for minimum wage or breaking your body doing hard manual labor? Religious morality is the only reason a much more safe, comfortable and lucrative option like OnlyFans is banned.

>What's so "dignifying" about a job getting humiliated by entitled customers in retail or waitressing for minimum wage or breaking your body doing hard manual labor?

The fact that you can (at least in theory) quit, recover and find a better job, or get promoted. Unlike humiliating videos of yourself being on the internet forever.

Re: OnlyFans to block sexually explicit videos starting in October

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Can they not setup an account on another for profit service which will commit to verify identity, age, and consent of performers?

Yes, in the same way that you can set up a video content channel on a site other than YouTube. It's not the hosting, it's the massive amount of traffic and exposure that can't be replicated by another service.

Have never used OF, but does it really have a good discovery algorithm? From the outside it appears that most new subscribers are from the links that are shared everywhere, similarly to Patreon.

Re: OnlyFans to block sexually explicit videos starting in October

#990

Wow, you spend years thinking crypto is convoluted nonsense…and then something comes along that impacts a lot of your friends, and you start to change your mind. I have a fair number† of friends and acquaintances who have OnlyFans. Some for side income, some for a substantial portion of their livelihood. And to see that get taken away because the payment processors want them to fall in line…I guess I’m on the crypto…

If crypto was actually a viable alternative they wouldn't be doing this. I'm not against the promises of crypto - but the tech so far has failed to deliver anything but a platform to streamline illegal activity, asset speculation bubbles and a whole bunch of wasted energy/hardware along with reliving the problems people had historically with bank fraud in free banking and the likes (banks printing their own notes wit…

> If crypto was actually a viable alternative they wouldn't be doing this.

Adoption is a thing and takes time. Crypto itself is also a technology still in its infancy with at least a decade+ of engineering remaining to begin to resemble something that everyday people can use, but it's already quite promising.

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