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Re: Elon Musk moves to Texas

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Post by macjohnmcc »

monoideism wrote: post #628
macjohnmcc wrote: post #526

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How about the nuts between San Antonio and Austin that tried to run the Biden/Harris bus off the road. There are plenty like them in Texas. I live here I know.

I don't know much about them - probably "right" and possessed with the same moral hysteria as the left. I'm not a Trump supporter or voter, if that's what you're trying to goad out of me.

I'm not trying to say you are anything not sure why you are taking it as an attack on you I was just stating that those people exist in Texas and aren't a quiet minority. I live here I have reference.

Re: Elon Musk moves to Texas

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Post by foobiekr »

nondeveloper wrote: post #893
foobiekr wrote: post #840

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I lived in SLC for a few months and really loved it. The area is quite nice. The winter inversions, once upon a time, made the air quality a real concern, but the bay area has now topped that with the very frequent smoke days. But .. are you mormon? Otherwise, how are you finding the social isolation? SLC itself is now 50% mormon, but the surrounding areas are still mormon-dominated. I like mormons, but they are defi…

My partner and I are Jewish and gay. Salt Lake has a small, tight-knit community of the former and a large, diffuse community of the latter; though we haven't been socializing because of the pandemic. The Latter-day Saints we've met have been unfailingly kind and welcoming to us, which is surprising given how they were characterized to us before we moved. Do I expect the more observant of them to welcome us in? Not r…

That's great. I'm happy for you.

Housing there is surprisingly expensive if you want to own, another concern for me. I really like SLC though.

Re: Elon Musk moves to Texas

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Post by nomel »

manigandham wrote: post #535
tabtab wrote: post #520

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> The state has gone downhill on every metric possible. Mostly because it got more crowded. As a CA resident, if you don't like CA, please DO move out. It will help traffic, for one. If ALL you care about is a big house and taxes, then CA is probably not for you. As soon as you walk outside your TX McMansion, you may realize why CA is so crowded.

> "Mostly because it got more crowded." So what? That means more people and tax revenue to solve problems. There are plenty of very dense areas around the world run just fine. This is a failure of policy not population. If people are such a problem then maybe tax-paying law-abiding citizens should be prioritized over illegal immigration. > "If ALL you care about is a big house and taxes, then CA is probably not for y…

> So what? That means more people and tax revenue to solve problems.

I'm not the state government though, I'm an individual with a life outside of my house. When the majority of the time for any activity outside of my house is sitting in traffic or waiting in lines, it's difficult to enjoy the area you live in. For this reason, I find myself heading further and further out of town to find areas or activities that aren't completely congested. Tax revenue won't make the lines shorter or traffic less. To do either would require bulldozing all of the housing and building up, at least where I am. Unfortunately, whenever this is done, luxury condos or apartments are the result, with rent that's higher than a mortgage, even for around here.

Re: Elon Musk moves to Texas

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Post by swixi »

blaser-waffle wrote: post #973
todd8 wrote: post #957

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> IIRC TX takes in ~$150b from the Federal government, but only pays ~$100b into the system. CA (like NY) pays more into the system then it takes out, so about ~$50b of the annual budget of TX is literally bumming money from other states, albeit indirectly. This isn't true. According to the SUNY Rockefeller Institute of Government report dated Jan 8, 2019 (which used the data from the Budget of the U.S. Government, F…

Quite surprised to see VA at #6. Is that because the rest of the state (basically Appalachia) hasn't grown with Richmond / NoVA / VA Beach? Or is VA's proximity to DC and ownership of a lot of the Federal apparatus helping them to get a disproportionate cut? The former -- lack of growth in the rest of the state -- may also be driving the state Blue.

It's the latter. From the article:

"Other states are high or low for various reasons: the outliers Maryland and Virginia, for example, both have dramatically higher Federal spending per capita than the average state, as they are near the physical headquarters for most of the Federal government and have significantly disproportionate Federal spending for procurement and Federal wages."

So, while Virginia is a relatively high-income state and contributes a lot of Federal income tax, they also have a lot of Federal employees, grants, contracts, etc.

(I was surprised at first too)

Re: Elon Musk moves to Texas

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Post by dang »

ffggvv wrote: post #106
chess_buster wrote: post #58

Once Volkswagen gets its Modulare Elektroauto Baukasten rolling at full production speed it's game over for Tesla anyhow.

why would i buy a car from a company founded by nazis?

We ban accounts that troll HN like this. Please don't do it again, and please stop posting unsubstantive comments generally.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: Elon Musk moves to Texas

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Post by michael_rb »

aluminum96 wrote: post #937
michael_rb wrote: post #910

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Depends where in Texas and where in California no? If you grew up outside Bakersfield and then moved to Austin for college would the reverse not also be true?

I moved from North Dallas to South Bay, so I think it's actually a pretty apples-to-apples comparison: both places are basically semi-dense suburbs just outside the urban core, with lots of jobs.

Thanks for sharing, sounds like a reasonable comparison. I’m really sorry to hear that by the way. I spent a year in a suburb outside of Houston and also felt it was far less tolerant than Palo Alto / MTV / Cupertino was, but wasn’t sure if it was a fair comparison for me to make given the differences between the two (the suburb of Houston I was in was an hour outside of the outer loop and had very few jobs and very little diversity, whereas the suburbs making up the Bay Area all felt a bit like one continuous city to me, with a large population and the university right next to them). I haven’t spent any time near Dallas either though, thanks for that perspective.

Re: Elon Musk moves to Texas

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Post by thrav »

TMWNN wrote: post #960
thrav wrote: post #908

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Provo is full of overly polite Mormon families and BYU. They chose cartoonish examples of polite conservative locales to make their point. There are plenty of conservative places that would be upset to see Harris / Biden attire. Look no further than the classic Top Gear episode with the Gay Pride car and the Clinton car driving through the south.

> Provo is full of overly polite Mormon families and BYU. They chose cartoonish examples of polite conservative locales to make their point. Are Fort Worth and Pensacola also filled with "overly polite Mormons"? Are they also "cartoonish examples of polite conservative locales"? (Congratulations, by the way, on making polite Mormons and conservatives sound like bad things.) Conversely, are San Francisco, Ann Arbor, a…

They’re about as liberal as places get, yes. I currently live in SF, spent 5 years in Utah, and my entire childhood in Texas. I know several of the places you mentioned quite well.

Mormons are excellent people. I sincerely appreciate how absurdly polite they are. They are cartoonishly polite. It’s just true. My newly married 20 year old next door neighbors moved in and immediately brought me, a plate of fresh baked cookies on day 1.

Fort Worth is a place with plenty of parts of town where I can pretty well guarantee that you’d catch some flack. That said, most big Texas cities are as liberal as they are conservative, if not more, so it’s a bad example of an absurdly conservative place. It’s nowhere near as conservative as SF and Cambridge are liberal. No major city in Texas is. Texas is more diverse than anyone gives it credit for.

I don’t know anything about Pensacola, so I can’t comment on that.

Re: Elon Musk moves to Texas

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Post by nickthemagicman »

boringg wrote: post #130
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Things are very different in Silicon Valley and in California now from the 90's when Musk was on the team that started Paypal. I think he might not want to be in the NEW California and Silicon Valley. I could spend a lot of time doing research and trying to figure out why... but things have changed somehow. I think the mass exodus of people from California kind of supports his decision. I think California has a negat…

Things change - I don't disagree. Things can't always been boom times. California has had a pretty strong push since the 80s frankly with the telecom bust in early 2000s. I would say the cost of living has escalated significantly, the companies that can afford to thrive in the bay area are not hardware startups as VC money has a difficult time support most of their higher capital costs, longer growth cycles and lower…

You're right I stand corrected.

Ignoring the Covid exodus, California had a .1% growth rate, which is in the lower half of all 50 states growth rate.

Texas has the number one growth rate in the country.

Re: Elon Musk moves to Texas

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Post by complexmango »

techsupporter wrote: post #220
S_A_P wrote: post #158

Pretty interesting to see this move makes people so salty. There does seem to be a trend of people fleeing California, I dont know enough about the situation out there to comment on whether or not its valid. I suspect something must be going on for several high profile folks moving out. And before you bash Texas, its not perfect. But its pretty diverse, and it seems that folks with opposing viewpoints can still coexi…

My birth certificate says "Texas" across the top and people have been "fleeing California" to Texas for as long as I've been alive. There's nothing special about Musk; he just happens to be high-profile about it and managed to extract more from California before decamping to a "cheap" state than several of those who came before him. I disagree with your assessment that Texas has wide acceptance for opposing viewpoint…

Your anecdotal experience is not borne out by either facts or my anecdotal experience.

Houston is literally the most diverse city in America, statistically speaking.

And you have to look hard to find religiously conservative people in any Texas metro that are also exclusionary. I say that as someone neither white nor Christian.

If anything, the only place you may find a lack of diversity is Austin, which is overwhelmingly white and overwhelmingly intolerant of non-leftist opinions.

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