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Amazingly, you can agree with the first post here exhorting folks to be civil and courteous and it will be considered rude and belligerent, marked off topic and you'll be derided by a moderator who should know better. Well done, YCombinator.
I think we learned that fake news (used to pump up fake issues) is now a legitimate campaign strategy that works even on people who should know better. Trump won on a mountain of fake issues: Immigration: both conservative and liberal economists agree that immigration (illegal or otherwise) does not suppress wages and does not suppress job growth. https://www.cato.org/research/immigration http://business.time.com/201…
Funny, I'd think the lesson is that near-total mainstream propaganda actually generates pushback. See also: Britain, Germany (where press in universally suppresses and labels any opposition as "neofascist"). Also consider the possibility that many people voted not for Trump, but against Clinton and her fake issues (like the discredited wage gap myth).
And some of the "explanations" of variance that has been accounted for are themselves sexist. If job titles women tend to have get paid less than job titles men tend to have, that means we value women's work less than men's. Your assumption is that work must be worth objectively less, but the only proof we have for that is "the market said so" which I find unconvincing.
He got elected on all these promises. 1- Build the wall and make Mexico pay for it 2- Deportation Force on day one 3- Repeal obamacare 4- Renegotiate NAFTA 5- Bring back coal 6- Reduce taxes for the rich 7- Ban muslims 8- Prosecuting Hillary Clinton 9- Bring back American companies to the USA 10- Etc. The Senate and the House are Republicans and the Supreme court will lean republican after his appointment. What do yo…
I'm not all that worried about Trump enacting any of his specific policies. I am worried about Trump legitimizing sexual assault and violence towards POC and Muslims. White men are going to get through the next four years just fine, women and minorities will very likely not.
As someone who's actively vocalized his support for Trump in the past, both here[1] and in my meat space life, I'm ecstatic with the results of this election. Not just the POTUS, but the trifecta of the house and senate as well. That's as loud of a mandate as can be expected from a strongly divided country. On top of all that, with the SCOTUS picks that are expected in the next few years, this election is going to be…
That said, your mandate claim is kind of absurd. More people voted for Romney than Trump.
And Obama got almost 10% more votes than Trump did. So it's not nearly "as loud as can be". Turnout was very low.
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Seems extremely disingenuous that Trump supporters of all people would criticize hate and name calling when Trump's campaign was run on those issues, but I guess it's always easier to strike a conciliatory tone when you've won.
The entire collective campaign strategy of Democrats has been to name call, demonize, and fear monger. Don't even try to pretend it was them.
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> both sides can leave behind the incessant name calling and hate that's plagued this election Trump ran his campaign on incessant name calling and hate. If you voted for him, that means you're OK with letting the incessant name calling and hate continue.
Weird that 99% of the incessant name calling and hate comes from my liberal friends who believe that all Trump supporters are racist xenophobes
As someone who's actively vocalized his support for Trump in the past, both here[1] and in my meat space life, I'm ecstatic with the results of this election. Not just the POTUS, but the trifecta of the house and senate as well. That's as loud of a mandate as can be expected from a strongly divided country. On top of all that, with the SCOTUS picks that are expected in the next few years, this election is going to be…
Don't think that is possible. If I was a democrat today I'd do like the Republicans have been doing the last 8 years and do my outmost to make the Trump Presidency be a major failure. The way the republicans have played this game is so dirty, that you can't expect people to forgive. We can not reward such a divisive character like Donald Trump with his racism, xenophobia, mysogny, insults and bullying with a successf…
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Why do you hate national parks Why do you deny climate change? Why do you support molesting women? Why do you think black people need to be stopped and frisked? Why do you hate gay people? Why do you think all Muslims are bad? Why do you think more religion in our government and schools is a good thing? Why do you hate women's reproductive rights? Why do you think we should actively consider using nuclear weapons? Wh…
What do you have to say about the women who voted for Trump. Do they support molesting themselves? What about the black people that voted for Trump? What about the gay people that voted for Trump? What about the Muslim people that voted for Trump?
They are feeling relatively safe from molestation. That good. They like to think it's because they are keeping themselves safe. If it's their doing then they're in control. So it feels good to them to blame women for their assaults and to believe that men like Trump aren't doing anything. It makes the world feel safer.
The liberal position, that men like Trump do sexually assault people, and that rape is common, and your friends might do it to you, and you should probably believe rape accusations by default, is much scarier. Many women would rather not believe it if they can avoid it.
Women with a LOT of privilege can safely believe it because they can use their prvilege (money etc) to stay safe. Women who are forced to be in unsafe positions can believe it, because they see how common sexual assault is. They are on the front line. Those two groups make up the feminist core.
But there are a lot of women who are just trying to put as much distance as possible between themselves and the rape scene, and for them it's a bit of an abstract matter.
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Which is ironic since Trump's supporters are the most PC, safe-space, triggered people I've seen. Clinton called some of them "deplorables" and there was such hue and cry. Point out that it's racist to criticize a judge based on his ancestry, or to propose banning immigrants based on their religion, and they got so tremendously offended.
I think you're making a false equivalency here. Both sides are very thin-skinned, no doubt, but one is a direct insult ("you are deplorables") and one is taking general offense on behalf of other people for perceived slights. (I voted for Hillary, mind.)
1) you'll accuse me of name calling, even though I just gave an accurate description of your political platform
2) you'll accuse me of trying to curtail your free speech, even though I was just exercising mine
3) you'll try to invalidate what I'm saying by invoking the "you may not campaign for the rights of others" rule you cited
All of which just serves you avoiding actually addressing my words, which are clear and direct: you are a white supremacist.
If I'm lucky you'll try to defend yourself by rattling through the list of your racist beliefs and then we can have a real discussion.
But most anti-SJW types are so triggered by words like "racism" and "xenophobia" that we never get that far.
My entire family feels a terrible sadness today. We immigrated here to the United States from Russia almost 20 years ago (to the day) and after all the immigration bullshit we were finally eligible for citizenship this year. My dad took his oath and got his US passport literally weeks before the election and this is what he gets for his first vote: a divisive demagogue beat a corrupt career politician. There are no w…
But really, I'm sad that Bush tied with Gore. I'm sad that Trump tied with Hillary. And I want to live in a country with better candidates, less party politics, and more decisive victories for my values.
From that perspective, the electoral college isn't really the problem, so I let it be.