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Soylent halts sales of its powder as customers keep getting sick

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Re: Soylent halts sales of its powder as customers keep getting sick

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>I think that Soylent will go down as a cautionary tale for anyone who looks at a field they know very little about and thinks "how hard could it be?". Along with Theranos. Terrible analogy. Unlike Theranos, Soylent has been shipping their core product to many satisfied customers for over two years. The recent quality control issues are real, and they are troubling, but they don't invalidate Soylent's thesis that an…

> Terrible analogy. I think it's apt, but of course you're free to disagree. Both companies entered fields with a founding team that lacked any particular expertise -- dropping out of Stanford or a degree in electrical engineering doesn't give you the background to know what's truly possible in nutritional or life sciences. Theranos and Soylent were both shipping their products to much success not that long ago. Ther…

Soylent's story was always lackluster.

http://robrhinehart.com/?p=298

> I researched every substance the body needs to survive, plus a few extras shown to be beneficial, and purchased all of them in nearly raw chemical form from a variety of sources. The section on the ingredients ended up being quite long so I’ll save that for a future post. The first morning my kitchen looked more like a chemistry lab than a cookery, but I eventually ended up with an thick, odorless, beige liquid. I call it ‘Soylent’. At the time I didn’t know if it was going to kill me

> On day 3 I noticed my heart was racing and my energy level was suddenly dropping ... I check my formula and realize iron is completely absent. I quickly purchase an iron supplement and add it to the mixture the next day. I have to be more careful not to leave anything out.

Re: Soylent halts sales of its powder as customers keep getting sick

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A contract you had no participation in drafting and never signed, yet you are compelled at gunpoint to uphold it. Nice spin tho.

... you can change laws, we have processes for it. You can also move to a more viable environment for your needs.

Indeed. But law is not a contract. Law is law. That is my only point.

Re: Soylent halts sales of its powder as customers keep getting sick

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Soylent has nine grams of sugar per serving. It is sugary junk.

9g of sugar for an entire meal isn't that much. A bottle of Coca-Cola has 67.5g of sugar in it, for comparison. An Apple has 19g. Your expectations of how much sugar people should eat are set unrealistically low.

I average about 30g of carbohydrate and under 5g sugar for an entire day when I'm losing or maintaining my weight. 9g for a small meal (and Soylent is a small meal, it's 400 calories a bottle) is a lot, especially given that it's 34g of non-fiber carbohydrates in the bottle besides jst the sugar count..

Re: Soylent halts sales of its powder as customers keep getting sick

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Soylent has nine grams of sugar per serving. It is sugary junk.

Isn't the WHO recommended sugar intake ~25 grams? 3 meals at 9 grams each is pretty close to that.

3 Soylent drinks is 1200 calories. You're talking five to hit 2000 calories in a day.

(And it's 34 total net carbohydrates per bottle, with 3g fiber. Which isn't great, either.)

Re: Soylent halts sales of its powder as customers keep getting sick

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I tried this off and on for over a year - huge supporter of the idea to have a basic "fallback" healthy meal option better than the kind of crap we might eat when we're low on ingredients. But I had to stop. No matter what kind of soylent I had, even the liquid, I'd just get horrible indigestion from it - heartburn, even acid reflux. I read all the theories about "oh, you're just not used to the fiber" but I eat plen…

Same with me. Lots of heartburn from soylent, especially if I ate it as breakfast. I can handle it with solid food or in the middle of the day, but not on an empty stomach.

Re: Soylent halts sales of its powder as customers keep getting sick

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Given that a) our ancestors lived a very different lifestyle and b) we would like to live long past child-raising age, which is where evolutionary benefits to longevity would mostly end, a diet similar to our ancestors is by no means a safe option.

s/ancestors/parents. They seem to be living decently long lives, so I'll let someone else experiment with liquid meal replacements for a decade or two, thank you very much.

Decent, yes. On the other hand, if diet changes were able to increase life expectancy by say 10 years (which is what some people claim agriculture reduced it by) then I'd jump at that.

Re: Soylent halts sales of its powder as customers keep getting sick

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Just plain polymath will do fine, seeing as the last time anyone could make legitimate claim to this title was probably 500 years ago.

What about someone like Bill Gates? Programmer and businessman, sure but he also knows a fuck ton about infectious diseases and global politics and all kinds of other things.

A fuck ton in this case is probably less than an undergraduate (micro) biologist. Hardly a polymath unless he was producing new research in the field.

Re: Soylent halts sales of its powder as customers keep getting sick

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chewing is what stimulates the bile gland, bile is what you need to help with toxins removal, you need to chew, no short cut! http://www.spinelab.co.uk/chewing-is-foreplay-for-digestion-... http://www.vivo.colostate.edu/hbooks/pathphys/digestion/live...

Can you name any of these "toxins"?

are you disputing that bile plays a role in the metabolic process that removes toxins ? or are you seeking clarification of what I mean by toxins ?

Re: Soylent halts sales of its powder as customers keep getting sick

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post #426
post #423

chewing is what stimulates the bile gland, bile is what you need to help with toxins removal, you need to chew, no short cut! http://www.spinelab.co.uk/chewing-is-foreplay-for-digestion-... http://www.vivo.colostate.edu/hbooks/pathphys/digestion/live...

try this, eat what you normally eat, except take twice as long to eat it, after eating sit quietly for the same amount of time and meditate on how awesome you are for getting feeding yourself right.

-3, nice, https://scholar.google.co.uk/scholar?q=anorexia+and+percepti...

Re: Soylent halts sales of its powder as customers keep getting sick

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post #988

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Can you name any of these "toxins"?

are you disputing that bile plays a role in the metabolic process that removes toxins ? or are you seeking clarification of what I mean by toxins ?

https://www.google.co.uk/search?sourceid=chrome-psyapi2&ion=...
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