14-Year-Old Boy Arrested for Bringing Homemade Clock to School • Hacker News Board

Re: 14-Year-Old Boy Arrested for Bringing Homemade Clock to School

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Post by shkkmo » Thu, Sep 17, 2015, 4:04 PM UTC

maratd wrote: post #858

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> but just for a second, consider that {insert for-profit college name} is providing a service that people want and that's why people are choosing it. Are you aware of how extremely predatory many of these for-profit colleges have been? Their students aren't getting something they want. I don't disagree with vouchers in general, but you can't just ignore the risks when using public funds to have private institution p…

> Are you aware of how extremely predatory many of these for-profit colleges have been? Their students aren't getting something they want. I don't know what this statement means. If you're suggesting that people attend these institutions and then aren't able to find work in that field, I would say that's true of many other institutions as well. Those majoring in English in a standard non-profit college aren't likely…

Try using google. This isn't a controversial statement or hard to find reporting on:

http://www.consumerfinance.gov/newsroom/cfpb-sues-for-profit...

>The Bureau alleges that Corinthian lured tens of thousands of students to take out private loans to cover expensive tuition costs by advertising bogus job prospects and career services. Corinthian then used illegal debt collection tactics to strong-arm students into paying back those loans while still in school.

> Corinthian Colleges, Inc. is one of the largest for-profit, post-secondary education companies in the United States. The publicly traded company has more than 100 school campuses across the country. The company operates schools under the names Everest, Heald, and WyoTech. As of last March, the company had approximately 74,000 students.

Re: 14-Year-Old Boy Arrested for Bringing Homemade Clock to School

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Post by logfromblammo » Thu, Sep 17, 2015, 4:48 PM UTC

mynameisvlad wrote: post #886

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Not for me. I propose a hypothetical test. In this test, the subject to be tested is socializing with his or her normal social circle. During this activity, a potential romantic interest interrupts, and proposes that they go out on a date with the subject, immediately. Responses are classified as follows. A: the subject leaves the gathering for the date. B: the subject declines the date. C: the subject counter-offers…

> How many did he materially share his success with? I didn't realize that nerds had to suddenly share their success with their nerdy friends to qualify nowadays.

You should share your failures with your friends, too. Not to the same extent.

A wealth differential can become a strain on a friendship. Some people who suddenly become wealthy reconvene their former social group as an entourage to overcome it. Others just drift away from their old friends and make new friends.

If you had more money than everyone else you already knew, combined, would you feel any obligation to do anything to make their lives better? It doesn't even have to be anything big. If I were CEO of Apple, I think I would, at the least, give away copies of the major hardware product releases to my oldest friends just before launch day, with prepaid support. You don't need to hand out cushy sinecures, but those are fine, too, provided it's from your personal bankroll, and not your company's.

I certainly wouldn't shut down my company's existing philanthropic programs, and never leave any public trace of charitable giving whatsoever.

Hell, I'm not even rich, and I put $500 into an old high school friend's first Kickstarter project. If I had more to contribute, I would have contributed more.

It may not be an absolute quality all nerds need to have, but some generosity towards friends and family is a requirement for me, specifically, to like someone.

Gifting etiquette varies by person, even within the same culture, but I expect rich people to give to charities and put their names on museum galleries and hospital wings and university buildings and zoo habitats and park playground equipment. I also expect them to show up to award ceremonies and accept their mantelpiece trophies with good grace and concise speeches. That's what lets the rest of us know they are not completely self-absorbed assholes. When your success rests upon so many people that you cannot possibly thank each of them personally for their support, that's how you show gratitude to "the public".

Re: 14-Year-Old Boy Arrested for Bringing Homemade Clock to School

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Post by logfromblammo » Thu, Sep 17, 2015, 5:20 PM UTC

callum85 wrote: post #892

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If this is really how you see the world, I pity you. Grow up, this is puerile identity politics at its best.

I thought the above comment was funny and harmless. Why so harsh?

Don't worry about it. I rolled a 16 on my accept criticism check. According to the table, I shed a single tear, that slowly rolled down my cheek, then I got over it forever.~

Re: 14-Year-Old Boy Arrested for Bringing Homemade Clock to School

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Post by logfromblammo » Thu, Sep 17, 2015, 5:51 PM UTC

fao_ wrote: post #888

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Unschooling is a subset of homeschooling. In ordinary homeschooling, the parents set a curriculum, and direct the learning. In unschooling, the student decides what to learn, and the parent provides resources to support that. If the kid gets into dinosaurs, a regular homeschooling parent might add a dinosaur module to the science/biology part of the curriculum. The unschooling parent might ask, "How would you like it…

Unschooling is a subset of homeschooling. No, Unschooling is a subset of Home Education . So is Home Schooling. The distinction is important, since while both count as education, only one is school-at-home. The rest of the post is rather accurate though, although I would say that with the robotics, the unschooling parent would probably take the kids to a local Radioshack (Or Maplin's, if you're in the UK!) and buy a…

If you go to Radio Shack tomorrow, looking for robot parts, you're going to come back disappointed.

Re: 14-Year-Old Boy Arrested for Bringing Homemade Clock to School

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Post by Crito » Fri, Sep 18, 2015, 12:44 AM UTC

elektromekatron wrote: post #850

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EDIT: I believe you are misunderstanding the meaning of my previous comment based on its use of indefinite pronouns and how it was physically structured relative to the quote block. Rather than rehash it here, please re-read it.[1] EDIT 2: Looks like my Edit window timed out. I meant to also update this line as follows: Neither the original DallasNews article nor the TechCrunch article makes any such assertion about…

My, how gracious of you.

I guess when you can't tell somebody that they are wrong, you can still complain about how they are saying it.....

Re: 14-Year-Old Boy Arrested for Bringing Homemade Clock to School

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Post by selimthegrim » Fri, Sep 18, 2015, 1:19 AM UTC

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I totally agree with you. I don't necessarily think that people who are currently teachers should make >$100k. But if teacher pay was competitive with industry pay then we would have more smart people competing for teaching jobs. The problem with education is that old saying "people that can, do; people who can't, teach" but it's more like "people that can, do even if they would be really good at teaching because tea…

I would love to teach. I am very good at it. But I am also an entrepreneur to the core and hate, hate, hate bullshit. I am one of two engineering mentors for our local FIRST FRC robotics team. Brilliant kids fully motivated to learn. I love it. We've built a bunch of neat stuff. I happen to own a lot of nice manufacturing equipment so we've taken advantage of that with the kids learning such things are running CNC an…

Elon Musk is an engineer and entrepreneur/inventor, not a physicist. He stopped being a physicist the day he dropped out of grad school at Stanford. Why would you call a lecture he gives a physics lecture?

Re: 14-Year-Old Boy Arrested for Bringing Homemade Clock to School

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Post by dllthomas » Fri, Sep 18, 2015, 2:58 AM UTC

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The response is pretty simple. If they can never, ever admit they were wrong, we need to deprive them of their "authority".

Who's the we? These administrators are put their by their buddies in city and state positions. They almost never are educators themselves. In order to get competent caring administrators, who know what education is about, we need reform that actually puts educators in the hotseats.

Right thinking people? Of course it only works to the degree we have critical mass. But it seems worth encouraging, that we might more quickly get there in more cases.

Re: 14-Year-Old Boy Arrested for Bringing Homemade Clock to School

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Post by elektromekatron » Fri, Sep 18, 2015, 2:28 PM UTC

Crito wrote: post #985

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My, how gracious of you.

I guess when you can't tell somebody that they are wrong, you can still complain about how they are saying it.....

It was a response to the original comment of - I'm not going to call him a liar, because that presumes malice. He was wrong and irresponsible in his defaming statement. - which I still think merits sarcasm.

I could have done better however, so in that spirit, here's First Dog on the Moon's take on the event - http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/picture/2015/sep/18...

Re: 14-Year-Old Boy Arrested for Bringing Homemade Clock to School

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Post by ArkyBeagle » Sat, Sep 19, 2015, 10:57 PM UTC

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I wonder if anybody even so much as plugged a typical computer used into a Kill A Watt and compared with/without SETI running.

I have. I tested 3 models of HP that we had on campus which are kind of aging. Here's my results in Watts: HP 6000 Pro SFF - Core2Duo E8400 @ 3GHz - 100% CPU: 70, Idle: 26, Sleep: 2-3, Off: 0-1, HP 6200 Pro SFF - Core i5 3470 @ 3.2GHz - 100% CPU: 83, Idle: 31, Sleep: 2-3, Off: 0-1, HP 6300 Pro SFF - Core i5 2400 @ 3.1GHz - 100% CPU: 100, Idle: 30, Sleep: 2-3, Off: 0-1, It's been a few months now, and I can't remember…

Neat! Thanks for that. That definitely supports the estimate of cost from running SETI. You wouldn't think it'd be that much, would you?

Re: 14-Year-Old Boy Arrested for Bringing Homemade Clock to School

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Post by eldude » Sun, Sep 20, 2015, 6:24 AM UTC

elektromekatron wrote: post #988

Crito wrote: post #985

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I guess when you can't tell somebody that they are wrong, you can still complain about how they are saying it.....

It was a response to the original comment of - I'm not going to call him a liar, because that presumes malice. He was wrong and irresponsible in his defaming statement. - which I still think merits sarcasm. I could have done better however, so in that spirit, here's First Dog on the Moon's take on the event - http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/picture/2015/sep/18...

I believe the parent was calling you out on your BS. You claimed to care about the truth, but actually misunderstood and mischaracterized me. Then when the ignorance of your original statement became obvious, rather than acknowledge your gaffe, you immaturely deflected with glib sarcasm.

Not surprisingly, consistent with your weak intellectual arguments and preceding dishonesty, your comic forwards bigotry and ignorance while ignoring every meaningfully accurate portrayal of the truth.

You're a mouthpiece for hatred and ignorance.