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SpaceX wants to launch 100k more Starlink satellites for 100x the bandwidth

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Post by Lomlioto »

torpid wrote: post #937
odie5533 wrote: post #844

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I believe he said Teslas are meant to appreciate in value too because you get income from renting them out when you're not using your car. They'll just drive around and work as a taxi while you're not using it. He's more sci-fi author than CEO at this point.

Turo (then Relayrides) partned with GM to allow you to rent your own vehicle out while you were at work or anywhere, so it's not science fiction, it was done back in 2012 and the concept was the same, your vehicle will help pay for itself. Every mile logged by autonomous driving, every accident caused by a human vs autonomous vehicle where the human is at fault, will make insurance companies price risks accordingly.…

That will not work for a long time for peak hours and remote areas with too little of customers.

Everyone has to travel into our city in the morning to work, everyone does it with their own car they are proud of and see as essential at the same time while standing in traffic for 20-30 minutes extra.

And then what do you get? You get YOUR car back, smelly, stinky, dirty for saving a little bit of money?

We already have a 'drive yourself' car rentel system here and the lowest price for an avg car is 8 Euros per Hour for the time and 40 cents for 1km.

I also don't think insurance will be that much cheaper for autonomous driving. The insurance for a normal car is not expensive already, we have very few car incidents.

It might even become more expensive because you are driving more km per year.

Re: SpaceX wants to launch 100k more Starlink satellites for 100x the bandwidth

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Post by specialist »

rayiner wrote: post #683
digitaltrees wrote: post #379

I have started to see what I think are star link satellites at night on walks with my kids. It actually makes me sad to see that on person owns the night sky and is changing the literal stars my kids will grow up with. It feels different when it’s the government that theoretically represents people but when it’s one person that feels truly depressing.

> It feels different when it’s the government that theoretically represents people but when it’s one person that feels truly depressing. I worked on technology for years that the FCC effectively killed for stupid reasons. So it’s heartening to me that someone can still just do stuff and build things. It’s amazing. If you asked me 10 years ago I would have thought that getting something like Starlink off the ground wo…

I'm sorry for your loss.

Too late for your endeavor, FCC is now a pay to play racket.

Perhaps you should try again?

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Post by Ferret7446 »

bluegatty wrote: post #845
scotty79 wrote: post #827

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Money is also a voting system. He can decide those things only because people voted for him with their money. The issue is, not everybody has same voting power in this system. But then again people who have more power were voted for previously by others. So it's kind of representative democracy.

Good, god, no, money represents the balance of power in a system, there's not thing 'representative' about it from a civic perspective, completely the opposite.

Money represents a social IOU. The more money you have, the more value you have provided to society and thus you hold IOUs for which society will pay you back in the future.

That's why it's silly to hold a lot of cash, it means you've been suckered by society. That's also why holding (certain kinds of) debt is smart; you want a net positive relationship with society, in terms of pure personal gain.

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Post by clumsysmurf »

mlindner wrote: post #464
clumsysmurf wrote: post #332

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I'm in a heavily light polluted city (Phoenix) and even with all the air and light pollution, can still see satellites every moment past 2AM to the east. At least this time of year.

That's simply impossible. You must be seeing something else. They aren't that bright.

Its very obvious once you know what to look for, they are identical to the simulation at the top of the page below:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satellite_flare

Evenly spaced, every 20-30 seconds. Very, very bright at peak reflectivity, with easing in / out. I have no idea what kind of satellite it is though.

Re: SpaceX wants to launch 100k more Starlink satellites for 100x the bandwidth

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Post by rlt »

digitaltrees wrote: post #379

I have started to see what I think are star link satellites at night on walks with my kids. It actually makes me sad to see that on person owns the night sky and is changing the literal stars my kids will grow up with. It feels different when it’s the government that theoretically represents people but when it’s one person that feels truly depressing.

You’d probably feel differently if you were one of the 10 million (and growing) Starlink subscribers who previously had worse (or no) high speed internet access.

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Post by rlt »

rglullis wrote: post #778
tgsovlerkhgsel wrote: post #578

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Change is inevitable. I love seeing artificial objects in space, because it shows that we, humanity, are finally getting there. Elon doesn't own space, he just happens to be the one who is currently best at making it reachable. There is plenty of space for everyone else, and others will get there, eventually. I could eat myself up with envy over the money he's making from it... or be glad that it's at least someone g…

We don't need to have space literally transformed into junkyards to make progress, and there is nothing going wrong with going a lower pace if it means reduced impact on the rest of society.

Junkyard? Starlink satellites are deorbited at the end of their lifespan.

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Post by DemocracyFTW2 »

rayiner wrote: post #877
DemocracyFTW2 wrote: post #859

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except it's not so much about do stuff and build things, it's about literally raping the planet, extorting and exploiting everyone including retirement savings, and also to "move fast and break things" which we know understand better was really meant to mean "remove accountability for the richest people", a.k.a. remove public oversight. Taxes for the poor, and the money goes to multi-billion dollar corps. Vaccines? R…

> shutdown of that allegedly "criminal organization" (his words), USAID. Even the President of Mexico, who hates Trump, agreed on that one: https://www.newsweek.com/trump-musk-unexpected-ally-push-shu... “This agency has funded everything from research projects to groups that oppose the government. In Mexico, 'Mexicanos Contra la Corrupción' has received proven support from this agency. So how is it that these so-cal…

Sounds all fine and right until "China is investing in infrastructure without interfering with local politics".

Bru-ha-ha.

What a zinger.

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Post by atomicthumbs »

connicpu wrote: post #261
defrost wrote: post #235

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Sucks for regular astronomy then, where long exposures are the norm. Equally sucks for radio astronomy where the bloody things leak into spectrums they (Starlink) pinky promised to keep clean. And successive generations have worsened the problem, again despite promises to improve.

Starlink actively works with radioastronomy sites to avoid causing interference. They've posted about this before.

do you believe everything Musk says

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Post by atomicthumbs »

missedthecue wrote: post #358
senderista wrote: post #206

Will this be the last generation to remember the night sky?

It will be the first generation with widespread space travel. My children will have consumer access to a view that no one had seen until 1961 and only government employees had seen since.

this seems slightly delusional
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