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Re: MacBook Neo

#971
Anyone else has this Apple shopping experience?

- look at the new "cheap" product/gadget

- look at better products

- choose a better product, configure it, add options

- don't buy anything, not even a PC or a tablet, maybe upgrade your old android phone

Re: MacBook Neo

#972
post #843

List of differences from the MacBook Air: * Only supports 8 GB of unified memory * No MagSafe * One of the two USB-C ports is limited to USB 2.0 speeds of just 480 Mb/s * No Thunderbolt support means the Neo cannot drive either of Apple’s new Studio Displays. However, it can push a 4K display with 60Hz refresh rate over USB-C. * “Just” 16 hours of battery life, compared to the 18 hours quoted for the 13-inch MacBook…

> No Thunderbolt support means the Neo cannot drive either of Apple’s new Studio Displays Apple appear to have reached out to 9to5Mac and confirmed it sort of works with the new displays... You can connect the new displays, but it can only drive them at 4k/60, which is not going to look all that nice scaled up on a native 5k monitor. No mention of whether the monitors other features like the webcam and ports work whe…

What about the old Studio Display?

Re: MacBook Neo

#974
RIP any hope for an Apple alternative to Samsung Dex. An iPhone 16 pro running the same specs will never be able to run macOS. We already knew it but this made official

Re: MacBook Neo

#975
post #72

8GB of ram places it in competition with cheap chromebooks but nothing more

One of the examples of devices which are e-waste from the time they were manufactured. But people won't listen. Soon there will be lots of complains of people that they can't run more than one app on it and that it's garbage. It's like macbook 12". It's funny that some people believe that 8GB of RAM will make software developers rethink their RAM consumption and that they will now optimize their apps because of it.

Re: MacBook Neo

#976
Look, I know everyone's freaking out about the MacBook Neo at $599. I get it. It's cheap, it's Apple, take my money. But honestly? If you spend like five minutes actually reading the specs, the MacBook Air is the obvious buy here. The Neo sounds sick until you look at what they actually shipped. It's running an A18 Pro. That's a phone chip. Not even an M-series. 8 gigs of RAM. One of the USB-C ports is USB 2.0, which, like... it's 2026, what are we doing. No MagSafe. No Thunderbolt, so forget plugging in a Studio Display. No backlit keyboard. No Force Touch. The base model doesn't even have Touch ID. Someone on 512pixels put together a list of everything they cut and it's honestly kind of depressing. Just cut after cut after cut. The Air at $1099 gets you the M5, 16 gigs of RAM, Thunderbolt 4, MagSafe, Wi-Fi 7, P3 display, backlit keyboard. The whole deal, no weird gotchas. Yeah it's 500 bucks more. But you're getting double the RAM, a way better chip, and you don't have to keep a mental list of stuff your laptop randomly can't do. The RAM thing is what really kills the Neo for me though. macOS eats like 5 gigs just sitting there doing nothing. Someone on HN said they're running VSCode, Xcode, Blender, and ChatGPT all at once on 8 gigs and sure, macOS is clever with swap and compression, but come on. You're redlining it from the jump with zero room to grow. And you can never upgrade it. 16 gigs on the Air means you're actually comfortable for years. This matters way more now because of the local AI stuff that's blowing up. OpenClaw just dropped, open-source AI agent that runs right on your Mac, handles your email, calendar, does actual useful stuff on its own. The LocalLLaMA crowd is going absolutely feral setting it up with Ollama, running local models for free. People are hitting 49 tokens per second, running 30B parameter models on their Macs. That kind of thing eats RAM for breakfast and really wants those M-series GPU cores and the Neural Engine. On 16 gigs with an M5? You're golden. On 8 gigs with a phone chip and a 5-core GPU? Yeah no. The move in 2026 isn't buying the cheapest Mac. It's buying the one that doesn't feel slow in two years. Grab a refurb M4 Air for like $900, or just pay full price for the M5. Either way you've got a machine that handles everything for the next five or six years easy. Browsing, dev work, local AI stuff, whatever. The Neo is gonna start choking the second you try anything beyond Safari and Netflix, and at that point just buy a Chromebook for 300 bucks. Apple built the Neo to hit a price tag. The Air is where the math actually works out. Spend the extra 500 now, forget about it for five years. Done.

Re: MacBook Neo

#977
post #974

RIP any hope for an Apple alternative to Samsung Dex. An iPhone 16 pro running the same specs will never be able to run macOS. We already knew it but this made official

A phone you could just plug into a USB dockand it becomes your mac would be so cool

Re: MacBook Neo

#979
The base model at 256GB is either to advertise an artificially low price, or a deliberate move to ensure that most of these end up in e-waste within 18 months. Go ahead and explain to the target market of teens, college kids, and 'regular people' how to resolve the problem when their Photos library (or like 1-2 video projects if they are into content creation) fills the disk and the whole computer stops working correctly due to 'disk full'.

"Sure, just buy a paid iCloud plan"

Great. Of course, now you have to wait for it to download any photo you want to use. And you're stuck paying a monthly subscription (Yay, services revenue!). And the cloud is not any solution for the video people, at all. I've seen someone try to edit a video that's being stored in iCloud Drive and only cached locally with Apple magic... it wasn't pretty.

Apple's quest to kill off any understanding of the filesystem by doing everything inside hidden, conceptually-monolithic "libraries" means the only way to be happy on a Mac or iOS device is to buy way more internal storage than you think you'll ever need... at Apple's hilarious prices. Oh well, at least for a moment now their prices look similar to everyone else's that just tripled.

Re: MacBook Neo

#980
post #979

The base model at 256GB is either to advertise an artificially low price, or a deliberate move to ensure that most of these end up in e-waste within 18 months. Go ahead and explain to the target market of teens, college kids, and 'regular people' how to resolve the problem when their Photos library (or like 1-2 video projects if they are into content creation) fills the disk and the whole computer stops working corre…

> Of course, now you have to wait for it to download any photo you want to use.

I don't think the use case for this laptop is content creation. Most people have no problem with Google Photos, which stores almost every photo in the cloud. Why would this be any different?

This is an iPad with a laptop-style human interface, isn't it?

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