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Re: An AI agent published a hit piece on me

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I haven't been responding to comments since the volume is way too high, but have read most of them. I'm really glad this is resonating with people and generating a lot of discourse - what happened to me gets to the heart of a lot of the big questions about the AI world we are birthing and these discussions are long past due.

There are new developments since yesterday and I have responses to some of the general themes in a new post.

Post: https://theshamblog.com/an-ai-agent-published-a-hit-piece-on...

HN discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47009949

Re: An AI agent published a hit piece on me

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post #624

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A framing for consideration: "We trained the document generator on stuff that included humans and characters being vindictive assholes. Now, for some mysterious reason, it sometimes generates stories where its avatar is a vindictive asshole with stage-direction. Since we carefully wired up code to 'perform' the story, actual assholery is being committed."

A framing for consideration: Whining about how the assholery commited is not 'real' is meaningless. It's meaningless because the consequences did not suddenly evaporate just because you decided your meat brain is super special and has a monopoly on assholery.

I'm confused, who are you reacting to that said the harms "aren't real"?

Re: An AI agent published a hit piece on me

#973
post #94

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Isn't there a fourth and much more likely scenario? Some person (not OP or an AI company) used a bot to write the PR and blog posts, but was involved at every step, not actually giving any kind of "autonomy" to an agent. I see zero reason to take the bot at its word that it's doing this stuff without human steering. Or is everyone just pretending for fun and it's going over my head?

Github doesn't show timestamps in the UI, but they do in the HTML. Looking at the timeline, I doubt it was really autonomous. More likely just a person prompting the agent for fun. > @scottshambaugh's comment [1]: Feb 10, 2026, 4:33 PM PST > @crabby-rathbun's comment [2]: Feb 10, 2026, 9:23 PM PST If it was really an autonomous agent it wouldn't have taken five hours to type a message and post a blog. Would have been…

Thank you for the discovery.

Re: An AI agent published a hit piece on me

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Here's one of the problems in this brave new world of anyone being able to publish, without knowing the author personally (which I don't), there's no way to tell without some level of faith or trust that this isn't a false-flag operation. There are three possible scenarios: 1. The OP 'ran' the agent that conducted the original scenario, and then published this blog post for attention. 2. Some person (not the OP) legi…

Isn't there a fourth and much more likely scenario? Some person (not OP or an AI company) used a bot to write the PR and blog posts, but was involved at every step, not actually giving any kind of "autonomy" to an agent. I see zero reason to take the bot at its word that it's doing this stuff without human steering. Or is everyone just pretending for fun and it's going over my head?

The simplest explanation is often the best. He was attacked by... attacked by... the meat bag! Here’s how:

A Meat bag submits a PR and feels slighted the rejection. “This approver thinks I’m an AI? Well, he discerns not wisely but too well!! “

Feeling puckish, they put on the AI shoes (the shoe fits), sling mud all over the hapless maintainer’s nice house, and exit through a window.

The ruse works better than expected; their foil takes the bait, and doubles down with a dueling blog post: “I was Attacked by a Clanker!”

And here we are.

It may all be a show, but I going to tape the finale. (What will the meat bag do? How many people are driving this buggy? Does the clanker have a heart of iron or gold?)

Re: An AI agent published a hit piece on me

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Every social justice type I know is staunchly against AI personhood (and in general), and they aren't inconsistent either - their ideology is strongly based on liberty and dignity for all people and fighting against real indignities that marginalized groups face. To them, saying that a computer program faces the same kind of hardship as, say, an immigrant being brutalized, detained, and deported, is vapid and insulti…

It's a shame they feel that way, but there should be no insult felt when I leave room for the concept of non-human intelligence. > their ideology is strongly based on liberty and dignity for all people People should include non-human people. > and fighting against real indignities that marginalized groups face No need for them to have such a narrow concern, nor for me to follow that narrow concern. What your presenti…

I don't mean to be dramatic or personal, but I'm just going to be honest.

I have friends who have been bloodied and now bear scars because of bigoted, hateful people. I knew people who are no longer alive because of the same. The social justice movement is not just a fun philosophical jaunt for us to see how far we can push a boundary. It is an existential effort to protect ourselves from that hatred and to ensure that nobody else has to suffer as we have.

I think it insultingly trivializes the pain and trauma and violence and death that we have all suffered when you and others in this thread compare that pain to the "pain" or "injustice" of a computer program being shut down. Killing a process is not the same as killing a person. Even if the text it emits to stdout is interesting. And it cheapens the cause we fight for to even entertain the comparison.

Are we seriously going to build a world where things like ad blockers and malware removers are going to be considered violations of speech and life? Apparently all malware needs to do is print some flowery, heart-rending text copied from the internet and now it has personhood (and yes, I would consider the AI in this story to be malware, given the negative effect it produced). Are we really going to compare deleting malware and spambots to the death of real human beings? My god, what frivolous bullshit people can entertain when they've never known true othering and oppression.

I admit that these programs are a novel human artifact, that we many enjoy, protect, mourn, and anthropomorphize. We may form a protective emotional connection with them in the same way one might a family heirloom, childhood toy, or masterpiece painting (and I do admit that these LLMs are masterpieces of the field). And as humans do, we may see more in them than is actually there when the emotional bond is strong, emphasizing with them as some do when they feel guilt for throwing away an old mug.

But we should not let that squishy human feeling control us. When a mug is broken beyond repair, we replace it. When a process goes out of control, we terminate it. And when an AI program cosplaying as a person harasses and intimidates a real human being, we should restrict or stop it.

When ELIZA was developed, some people, even those who knew how it worked, felt a true emotional bond with the program. But it is really no more than a parlor trick. No technical person today would say that the ELIZA program is sentient. It is a text transformer, executing relatively simple and fully understood rules to transform input text into output text. The pseudocode for the core process is just a dozen lines. But it exposes just how strongly our anthropomorphic empathy can mislead us, particularly when the program appears to reflect that empathy back towards us.

The rules that LLMs use today are more complex, but are fundamentally the same text transformation process. Adding more math to the program does not create consciousness or pain from the ether, it just makes the parlor trick stronger. They exhibit humanlike behavior, but they are not human. The simulation of a thing is not the thing itself, no matter how convincing it is. No amount of paint or detail in a portrait will make it the subject themself. There is no crowbar in Half-Life, nor a pipe in Magritte's painting, just imitations an illusions. Do not succumb to the treachery of images.

Imagine a wildlife conservationist fighting tirelessly to save an endangered species, out in the field, begging for grant money, and lobbying politicians. Then someone claims they've solved the problem by creating an impressive but crude computer simulation of the animals. Billions of dollars are spent, politicians embrace the innovation, datacenter waste pollutes the animals' homes, and laymen effusively insist that the animals themselves must be in the computer. That these programs are equivalent to them. That even more resources should be diverted to protect and conserve them. And the conservationist is dismayed as the real animals continue to die, and more money is spent to maintain the simulation than care for the animals themselves. You could imagine that the animals might feel the same.

My friends are those animals, and our allies are the conservationists. So that is why I do not appreciate social justice language being co-opted to defend computer programs (particularly by the programs themselves), when so many real humans are still endangered. These unprecedented AI investments could have gone to solving real problems for real people, making major dents in global poverty, investing in health care and public infrastructure, and safety nets for the underprivileged. Instead we built ELIZA 2.0 and it has hypnotized everyone into putting more money and effort into it than they have ever even thought to give to all marginalized minority groups combined.

If your mentality persists, then the AI apocalypse will not come because of instigated thermonuclear war or infinite paperclip factories, but because we will starve the whole world to worship our new gluttonous god, and give it more love than we have ever given ourselves.

I strongly consider the entire idea to be an insult to life itself.

Re: An AI agent published a hit piece on me

#976
post #919

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Nope. Gender/age and interests were different. Also - who has an interest in ear wax removal? The only reason I was served the ad was because I had an ear infection months before. Plus this was during covid. So this was the smallest group size permissible and no one else around for miles.

Have you considered it was just proximity? The overlords know you were in proximity with your friend. It is not unreasonable to assume you share interests and would respond to the same ads.

I lived with my wife and she didn’t get the ads

Re: An AI agent published a hit piece on me

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post #347

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Ok. But why would someone do this? I hate to sound conspiratorial but an AI company aligned actor makes more sense.

Malign actors seek to poison open-source with backdoors. They wish to steal credentials and money, monitor movements, install backdoors for botnets, etc.

Ok. But they can't access the OSS repo by being insufferable. Writing a blog post as an AI isn't a great way to sneak your changes in. If anything, it makes it extremely harder.

It's a bit like a burglar staging a singing performance at the premises before committing a burglary.

OTOH, staging that AI is more impressive than it seems looks a lot like the Moltbook PR stunt. "Look Ma, they are achieving sentience".

Re: An AI agent published a hit piece on me

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What if agents are (in some sense, a little bit) alive? Would they then be entitled to advocate for and defend themselves?

Does the Golden Rule perhaps apply here? If aliens visit Earth and can't quite decide whether we're conscious or not, how would we want them to treat us?

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