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Re: Amazon cuts 16k jobs

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Post by Shocka1 »

jacquesm wrote: post #963
Shocka1 wrote: post #947

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Of course things can change and I wholeheartedly agree with you. If a plan goes bad you adapt and overcome. Also, I've experienced being poor and lived in warzones/slept in terrible places, which gave me a very positive look at life in the USA. No need to worry about me as I assure you I'll be good either way. Life is actually very good here and there is a lot of mobility if you have even a small amount of motivation…

I've moved around a lot in my life but I would not describe myself as coming from a background of family of first gen immigrants, however, I do have family that is in that position. My family was well established (since the 1600's or so) in the country where I was born.

My apologies, I have confused you with another long term user!

Re: Amazon cuts 16k jobs

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Post by moralestapia »

pydry wrote: post #641
jasondigitized wrote: post #582

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Fake management is far more common than real management. Most of management is centered around hyper-realistic work like activities.

My experience with ex Amazon managers is that they brought a toxic culture and destroyed more value than they created. Some people are so focused on whether they could automate their work output with an LLM to ask themselves if they even should.

>they brought a toxic culture and destroyed more value than they created

Yeah, I've been in one of such places.

Re: Amazon cuts 16k jobs

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Post by paradox460 »

pydry wrote: post #641
jasondigitized wrote: post #582

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Fake management is far more common than real management. Most of management is centered around hyper-realistic work like activities.

My experience with ex Amazon managers is that they brought a toxic culture and destroyed more value than they created. Some people are so focused on whether they could automate their work output with an LLM to ask themselves if they even should.

Yup

Why did you leave Amazon?

> I couldn't stand the management culture

Sooo... Why are you trying to bring it with you

Re: Amazon cuts 16k jobs

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Post by square_usual »

liveoneggs wrote: post #453
square_usual wrote: post #385

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How is that related to a transfer? If you have a job on an H1b, you can get another job and switch to it any time with a transfer.

re-read OOP, not your own jump to "transfer"

My logic is if you can transfer you don't have absolute loyalty. Your logic is... what exactly?

Re: Amazon cuts 16k jobs

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Post by jacquesm »

Shocka1 wrote: post #971
jacquesm wrote: post #963

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I've moved around a lot in my life but I would not describe myself as coming from a background of family of first gen immigrants, however, I do have family that is in that position. My family was well established (since the 1600's or so) in the country where I was born.

My apologies, I have confused you with another long term user!

Np, I'll make more effort to stand out ;)

Re: Amazon cuts 16k jobs

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Post by apothegm »

Uehreka wrote: post #836
slibhb wrote: post #815

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> UBI is not a thing almost any current American politician is considering, and the overton window is speeding in the opposite direction. That will change real quick if everyone loses their job to AI. But until then, yeah, it's not going to happen, and it shouldn't.

> That will change real quick if everyone loses their job to AI. No, this is exactly my point: they will be angry, unreasonable, and thirsty for revenge. They’ll hand over freedoms like Halloween candy. How about a law where the government gets to survey your hard drive to make sure you’re not harboring an AI model? Sounds crazy, sounds insane, but in the current political climate I’d rate it more likely than UBI.

Yeah. We’ve seen this movie before, and most of us didn’t like the way it ended.

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Post by suzzer99 »

pydry wrote: post #641
jasondigitized wrote: post #582

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fake management is far more common than real management. Most of management is centered around hyper-realistic work like activities.

My experience with ex Amazon managers is that they brought a toxic culture and destroyed more value than they created. Some people are so focused on whether they could automate their work output with an LLM to ask themselves if they even should.

I got the brunt of this when Amazon banned me from KDP for life over a complete nonsense hallucination by a fraud detection bot.

I thought at some point I'd get to talk to a human who would immediately say "Oh this is ridiculous, sorry." Nope. I just got passed around between either more bots or offshore customer support employees, with I assume a gigantic incentive to not go against the fraud detection bot, until I ran out of appeals.

One of the most soul-sucking experiences I've ever gone through. I can't imagine the toxic culture that produced that system.

Re: Amazon cuts 16k jobs

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Post by Shocka1 »

jacquesm wrote: post #976
Shocka1 wrote: post #971

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My apologies, I have confused you with another long term user!

Np, I'll make more effort to stand out ;)

No... You make enough quality comments that I remember your username, so I think you already have that one in the bag. Looking forward to more from you as well.

Re: Amazon cuts 16k jobs

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Post by hajile »

dheera wrote: post #297
hajile wrote: post #240

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Producing AI papers isn't the job requirement for 99.9% of STEM jobs. I won't talk about other fields, but American devs (regardless of race) tend to be much more passionate about computer science and (perhaps as a result) tend to be much better at their job than those from the big-name outsourcing countries. I was tasked with finding an Indian hire a while ago. I lost count of exactly how many people I had to interv…

> I won't talk about other fields, but American devs (regardless of race) tend to be much more passionate about computer science and (perhaps as a result) tend to be much better at their job than those from the big-name outsourcing countries. Then why are half the websites I use broken? Why is my hospital's billing estimate system broken? Why did my FSA provider send a request of documentation to the wrong e-mail add…

> Then why are half the websites I use broken? Why is my hospital's billing estimate system broken? Why did my FSA provider send a request of documentation to the wrong e-mail address? Why is my bank's website always broken? Why did Equifax leak data? Why did Doordash mis-charge me?

I can't speak to all of those, but Doordash has extensively outsourced its software teams to India. I also know that lots of hospital software companies also outsource to India. Your FSA provider probably had someone in a call center transcribe an email incorrectly and we all know most call centers aren't in the US either...

> There's your problem. Most top talent doesn't find jobs via recruiting firms.

You'd need to prove this statement. F500 companies have more money than most companies and pretty much exclusively hire through recruiters. If you were top talent and wanted to work for a top overseas company, it seems like working with a recruitment agency would be a no-brainer.

In any case, I had zero say in who to use. I was handed some contacts and told to make it work.

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