A lot of comments that don't go along the liberal hivemind are being downvoted and flagged, even though they don't break hacker news rules. If this community can not hear opposing opinions, then let's just ban political and politically charged news from being shared and discussed here.
FBI is investigating Minnesota Signal chats tracking ICE
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#972A lot of comments that don't go along the liberal hivemind are being downvoted and flagged, even though they don't break hacker news rules. If this community can not hear opposing opinions, then let's just ban political and politically charged news from being shared and discussed here.
Can I suggest that using the term "liberal hivemind" is really never going to help your case no matter what your "opposing opinion" is?
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source: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2026/jan/28/footag... What I can tell is ICE starts to open a door, and a clerk immediately stops them and ICE shut the door a second later. The clerk opens the door to further tell them they are not allowed to enter. The ICE person states they will not try to enter and if the clerk touches them, they will yank the person out of the building. ICE then leaves. I'm not…
I don't think that it's reasonable to see this behavior as anything but threatening given the location and the ample context provided by ICE's behavior up to this point. > The ICE person states they will not try to enter and if the clerk touches them, they will yank the person out of the building. Does that not amount to a threat? It sounds as though most of these agents are poorly trained at best. https://www.kenkli…
> Does that not amount to a threat?
"If you touch me, I'll break your jaw" has been ruled by courts to not be a threat.
Re: FBI is investigating Minnesota Signal chats tracking ICE
#974Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't think that it's reasonable to see this behavior as anything but threatening given the location and the ample context provided by ICE's behavior up to this point. > The ICE person states they will not try to enter and if the clerk touches them, they will yank the person out of the building. Does that not amount to a threat? It sounds as though most of these agents are poorly trained at best. https://www.kenkli…
> Does that not amount to a threat? "If you touch me, I'll break your jaw" has been ruled by courts to not be a threat.
If it were said by a masked agent who is part of a group of rampaging thugs murdering bystanders in the street, I would see it as a threat.
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#975Earlier quoted context omitted.
In my comments, I add opinions after the facts. Nor have I been donwvoted to oblivion. IMO, the people who I reply to aren't really acquainted with the facts. I on the other hand happen to be a "bootlicker", while their opinion seems to be that it's ok to interfere with police work, and that the person that got shot did nothing wrong..
ICE isn't doing police work (police are somewhat accountable to their local populace for keeping people safe), they're ostensibly (selectively) enforcing federal immigration regulation. But please for the love of god explain how "not following orders" is grounds for immediate extrajudicial execution? because your "their opinion seems to be ... that the person that got shot did nothing wrong" definitely seems to imply…
While I do agree that this was tragic sequence of events, then the whistle protesters, carrying a gun and then getting between an officer and the woman is what brought it to the current conclusion.
Go protest in some square, don't protest at ICE carrying out its work. Should this event somehow disqualify ICE, you'll see the Trump opposers hugging every criminal in the country. "Full stop" (as if rhetoric devices ever strenghtened an argument..)
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It's noteworthy at this point in time that there is a contradiction. The government is currently ramping up Palantir and they are using "precise targeting" of illegal aliens using "advanced data/algorithms". And yet, at the very same time we are seeing time and time again that ICE/DHS agents are finding the wrong people, seemingly going to any house indescriminently, and generally profiling people instead of using an…
> we are seeing time and time again that ICE/DHS agents are finding the wrong people, seemingly going to any house indescriminently, and generally profiling people instead of using any intelligence whatsoever. Generally speaking, that is a tactic of oppression, creating a general sense of fear for everyone. Anyone can be arrested or shot.
Yes obviously, but as my central point was, it is the complete opposite of their narrative of targeted operations backed by data.
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#977Earlier quoted context omitted.
In my comments, I add opinions after the facts. Nor have I been donwvoted to oblivion. IMO, the people who I reply to aren't really acquainted with the facts. I on the other hand happen to be a "bootlicker", while their opinion seems to be that it's ok to interfere with police work, and that the person that got shot did nothing wrong..
One model for this type of behaviour/response in reaction to feelings of shame is known as the "Compass of Shame" ( https://www.researchgate.net/publication/233600755_Investiga... ) Here's a 3 minute explainer from the researcher: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZ1fSW7zevE This model defines a few different categories of how people respond - "Withdrawal","Attack-Self" and "Avoidance", "Attack-Other". If you were to…
I don't live in the US and do agree that Trump is hectic at times. I don't really argue for ICE because of some emotional reason.
Trump had deportions of illegals on his agenda, they were creating trouble at certain locations (perhaps a tiny minority on US map), people voted Trump, he is keeping his promises. The protesters probably don't even know who is being currently captured..
They are protesting against the democratic outcome. But don't understand that when you're the minority, you can't have both the (1) "what you want", and (2) democracy.
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> willingly unlock their phones Or they are running any mainstream iPhone or Android phone, they've unlocked the phone at least once since their last reboot, and the police have access to graykey. Not sure what the current state of things is, since we rely on leaked documents, but my take-away from the 2024 leaks was GrapheneOS Before First Unlock (BFU) is the only defense.
Where has there been any allegations iPhone before first unlock has been bypassed? GrapheneOS isn't quite as secure in the real world. Pixels continue to have baseband and OOBConfig exploits that allow pushing zero interaction updates, or system memory access.
> Pixels continue to have baseband and OOBConfig exploits that allow pushing zero interaction updates, or system memory access.
That is greatly reduced since the releases of the Pixel 9 and 10.
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Bots can authenticate just as well as human users. Both bots and trolls are completely different set of issues that cannot easily be solved, regardless of your approach.
Bots can have private keys that are only issued to humans?
You will need to implement some very invasive issuing mechanism to ensure that only those with a pulse can procure new keys. Even then, keys will still be bought or stolen - as was the case with pre-Elon Twitter checkmarks.
Re: FBI is investigating Minnesota Signal chats tracking ICE
#980I’d be curious to know what they plan to charge people with.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4e_BbsDgLmI gives a pretty good summary of the possibilities.