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Re: The Palantir app helping ICE raids in Minneapolis

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Post by libraryatnight »

no-dr-onboard wrote: post #200
libraryatnight wrote: post #139

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I assume if someone works for Palantir they're an unabashed Yarvinist and fine with it.

That's a pretty broad generalization, but OK I'll bite. - I think Yarvin has a lot of good points. No one should be ashamed to admit the truth of a matter. I can't stand his voice, I think he has annoying mannerisms, but nonetheless the man has a point and I'm not ashamed (especially by unknown and strange online personas) to say so. - Palantir is objectively a profitable job. I've learned a lot here and the people I…

it's funny how now days you can spot a tool by how they want to make sure the nuance of the fascist prick argument is being heard. I hear it. It sucks.

Re: The Palantir app helping ICE raids in Minneapolis

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Post by BuckRogers »

lcnPylGDnU4H9OF wrote: post #964
BuckRogers wrote: post #963

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I said more of substance here than you for sure. At least I had a point. You’re just attacking the messenger. Totally useless.

> I said more of substance here than you for sure. At least I had a point. Your comments do not make any substantive points. One observation with regard to this is that, when asked for anything you've written in this thread that is substantive, you write only that it exists rather than offering said substance for review. > You’re just attacking the messenger. My comments are not about you but instead about the things…

Wow, talk about projecting.

Re: The Palantir app helping ICE raids in Minneapolis

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Post by no-dr-onboard »

johnnyanmac wrote: post #862
no-dr-onboard wrote: post #200

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's a pretty broad generalization, but OK I'll bite. - I think Yarvin has a lot of good points. No one should be ashamed to admit the truth of a matter. I can't stand his voice, I think he has annoying mannerisms, but nonetheless the man has a point and I'm not ashamed (especially by unknown and strange online personas) to say so. - Palantir is objectively a profitable job. I've learned a lot here and the people I…

>No one should be ashamed to admit the truth of a matter. Yet supports a regime that is censoring colleges, getting workers fired over their political views, pressuring and shutting down press, and more. The point clearly only matters for truths they like. >Palantir is objectively a profitable job And ICE offering 50k signing bonuses. How much is your soul worth? >I don't think I have "blood on my hands" and rather i…

Just saw this. Hope you feel better. It seems you were really going through it when you wrote this.

Re: The Palantir app helping ICE raids in Minneapolis

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Post by wutwutwat »

wutwutwat wrote: post #193
Kapura wrote: post #49

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people cannot yet be held accountable; this is an important first step, however.

Ah ok, we'll hold people accountable. Sweet! Hopefully the number of people who die stays low until that happens, which always happens, at least.

2nd person was just executed, with multi-angle clear video footage of the wrong doing. White House is defending the murderer and posting memes on twitter.

Sure hope that we start holding people accountable before more innocent people are executed in the streets

Your downvotes are a signal of how lost we are

Re: The Palantir app helping ICE raids in Minneapolis

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Post by throw10920 »

stackghost wrote: post #45
oxqbldpxo wrote: post #21

And ppl were worried about China's 1984 style use of Ai, lol. In the end it was greedy software developers that enable this.

This is what happens when one allows oneself to hide in "safe spaces" (like HN) where there's a "no politics" rule enabling people to hide and avoid being confronted with the ramifications of their actions. The entire world runs on technology now. It's all inherently political.

This comment is wrong and/or malicious along every dimension.

> "safe spaces" (like HN)

HN is not a "safe space". Saying that most politics is off-limit most of the time for very good reasons (that only either insane or malicious people would deny) does not make this a "safe space". Go look up how Wikipedia defines it and it's easy to see that your statement is literally false.

> where there's a "no politics" rule

This is false. There is no "no politics" rule.

> enabling people to hide and avoid being confronted with the ramifications of their actions.

This statement is just insane. The direct logical conclusion of this statement is that if every site on the internet is not blasting out political news all the time, that it's enabling people to "hide" from something. That's not just false - that's a deranged position that 99.999% of people will disagree with.

> It's all inherently political.

False. Deciding your backend architecture (microserves vs monolith) is not political. Picking a text editor is not political. Helping a friend install Linux is not political. Not everything is political - the fact that you is means that something is wrong with the way that you view the world.

And even for the things that are political - only a crazy and/or evil person would take the fact that emacs is made by GNU and vim is not as a reason to incite political flamewars on the internet and try to inject politics into every online forum.

People like you are the main reason that modern American culture is so toxic and politically polarized and that democratic discourse is breaking down.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safe_space

Re: The Palantir app helping ICE raids in Minneapolis

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Post by JCattheATM »

xyzelement wrote: post #465
embedding-shape wrote: post #315

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If all those things happened in Spain where I live, I'm 99% we'd have actual riots on the streets, together with a lot of other unpleasant-but-needed civilian action, until things got better, like we've done in the past (sometimes maybe went slightly overboard with it, but better than nothing). Why are Americans so passive? You're literally transitioning into straight up authoritarianism, yet where are the riots? How…

I think it's something different than "Americans are passive" - rather, many of them/us perceive the context of what you're seeing very differently. I can share some of this perspective though I don't insist it's the only way to feel. 1. Americans on the ground are clearly feeling the effects of illegal immigration. As an example: a an African American janitor in our kids' school voted republican in 2024 for the firs…

> the park in his Brooklyn neighborhood has become a shanty town and he can't work out there.

That's probably more to do with homelessness than immigration, so voting Republican is going to make that worse.

Re: The Palantir app helping ICE raids in Minneapolis

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Post by datsci_est_2015 »

zahlman wrote: post #943
datsci_est_2015 wrote: post #195

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The amount of credulity you’re exhibiting is incredible given the tidal wave of evidence that there’s a highly politicized, highly funded paramilitary organization of the government that has to date not been publicly held accountable for any of its actions that clearly violate the rights and safety of even the lawful residents of the United States.

Reposting because there is clearly no reason for it to have been flagged. The claim that ICE exists and is highly funded is not in dispute. ICE has existed since 2002 and the current funding was provided in the Big Beautiful Bill and was never in question. "Paramilitary" is a subjective assessment. Anyone being "held accountable" for anything, ever, in the legal system, takes years. Trump has not even been in office…

This is Gish-gallop.

Your final point essentially relies on us to believe that because we see evidence of ICE protesters doing things that range from mildly annoying to obstructive, ICE have carte blanche to execute citizens in the street should they be clever enough to manufacture the opportunity for themselves (like walking in front of a parked vehicle of a cooperative, but startled woman).

Your individual points about the technicalities of the actions of ICE being legal or illegal are imo immaterial to the above.

I’ve also seen lots of videos of extremely concerning behavior by ICE agents, like you have seen of protestors. The catch is one group of people are federal agents who can kill you without consequences, and the other group is a wide range of American citizens of varying degrees of intelligence, mental health, and passion that can’t be grouped together into a monolith to prove some point about whether they’re allowed to be executed in the streets.

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