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Trump says Venezuela’s Maduro captured after strikes

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Re: Trump says Venezuela’s Maduro captured after strikes

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As a European: His voters thought Trump would be different, he would bring the troops home, put the homeland first, and that he would fight the Deep State. In reality, he's building out Imperium Americanum, he is fighting wars without Congressional approval and proper casus bellis, he's not bringing the troops home and it is clear he represents the fucking Deep State even more than any of his predecessors since JFK.…

Right now the US have not invaded Venezuela but in effect attempted to precipitate a "coup". We shall see what happens now. Note, too that Maduro is not widely recognised as President by Western countries because of accusation of election rigging.

This is classic US action South of the border since the 19th century so I think the outrage is excessive. Perhaps people think, wrongly, that this is new becaude of Trump. What is new is that this seems actually aimed against China.

Regarding international law, it seems that it's been invoked so much in recent years that people have "drunk the Kool Aid" and actually believe that this is something carved in stone that must be obeyed, or even just actual "law"...

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What kind of visa Mr. Maduro was using when he entered the US?

I'm guessing it must be very good since, let's just say he kinda fits the profile which President Trump might describe as "worst of the worst", and yet the US Customs still just letting that guy walk right in.

But anyhow I hope Mr. Maduro don't illegally overstay because if ICE found out about it, there's a chance they'll deport Mr. Maduro to Venezuela.

Re: Trump says Venezuela’s Maduro captured after strikes

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It's funny how many people already see this as a book that is opened and closed on the same day. That's not how these things work. This is like the first stone of an avalanche. It could stop here, or it could roll on for quite a while. It will take months or even years to know whether or not the outcome here was desirable or not and what the final tally is. Remember the 'Arab spring' and what came after.

? The arab spring came from the islamic world regularly building population powder kegs, without having a modern industrial society to keep these populations educated, fed and with a perspective beyond fanatic death-cultist movements.

The arab spring exploded, because obama rerouted us-surplus food from subsidizing allied regimes (egypt) into bio-fuels, causing wild price spikes to the bread prices in egypt and the arab world. These situations are not really comparable - like at all. Not even on the surface level.

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It’s mind blowing how many people here justify this because Maduro is “bad for Venezuela”, as if the US was appointed to be to police of the world. Such self centric view that usually leads to dark places.

It's run of the mill conservativism. I wonder if it is just an age group thing or what.

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It’s interesting to see how Americans assume Venezuelans aren’t happy about this. People are so clueless. I’m in South America right now and everyone is happy for the Venezuelans. Especially the Venezuelans. It’s been 25 years of hell. They don’t really care at the moment if Trump did it for oil. You think Russia and China just wanted the recipe for Arepas? That’s the common saying. Venezuelans just wanted a chance t…

Americans may lack theory of mind of Venezuelans, but that doesn't invalidate thethe concerns of outsiders, as you yourself says it's TBD how things play out, especially with global ramifications and in the long run for all nations affected by this American action.

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It’s mind blowing how many people here justify this because Maduro is “bad for Venezuela”, as if the US was appointed to be to police of the world. Such self centric view that usually leads to dark places.

(I'm not American)

I think all that's required here is that Maduro had such bad relationships with everyone both inside and outside the country that there was no one to defend him.

If the UN calls for a vote to condemn the US, it will likely fail even without veto power.

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I will spare saying the obvious illegality of such actions and how serious this is. I will just say something else: I grew up as a kid between the 80s and 90s, when the world felt like it was going towards a brighter age of peace and respect. Berlin wall falling, China opening, Apartheid ending in South Africa, even Palestine and Israel were moving towards a more peaceful future. But since then the world has just pro…

We didn't have the internet back in the 80's and 90's to doom scroll all day. We read the events in the newspaper and watched it on on the news at 6pm and that was it. This might be partially why things seem darker.
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