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Re: iPhone Pocket

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Post by bborud »

artyom wrote: post #952
nyx wrote: post #784

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're right, of course, but I don't think blame rests solely on the individual consumer here... I guess it's a bit of a chicken-and-egg problem, wherein Apple makes $200 knitted iPhone scrotes because they know people will line up to buy it, and people will line up to buy $200 knitted iPhone scrotes because Apple made them. And people have brand loyalty to Apple stuff because quality, or design, or something... but…

Pretty sure the profit margin for these bags is 10x at least. Way better (and simpler) that dealing with expensive computer/phone hardware and it supply chain, even if their pricing is ridiculously expensive. Marketing guys just know and exploit a very well known human weakness. It's annoying because it's Apple, but everyone has been doing this forever. Non-standardized phone chargers? USB-C and its patent hell? HDMI…

Oh it is going to be a more than 10x profit.

The materials themselves probably cost no more than a few tens of cents, so all the cost is going to be the in the manufacturing process. The knitting pattern does look somewhat advanced, so I guess it would require a relatively high spec knitting machine. I suspect what would drive up cost is a combination of throughput and somewhat that you need an expensive knitting machine. Since this is a high volume item that will probably bring down the average cost by quite a bit.

I would guess somewhere in the region of $2 to $5 per pocket to mass produce these? Anyone have a more qualified guess?

Re: iPhone Pocket

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Post by GaryNumanVevo »

morshu9001 wrote: post #933
GaryNumanVevo wrote: post #229

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This is like complaining about the $400 Hermès band. The "iPhone Pocket" is obviously a luxury item from a high end designer, of course it's going to be expensive.

That's all fine, the problem is the product looks cheap and dorky

That's practically half of all "designer" stuff anyways!

Re: iPhone Pocket

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Post by runnr_az »

huffer wrote: post #918
vessenes wrote: post #853

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Exactly my reaction. I hate this. I hate that someone thought of it and that it exists. I have no idea if it will sell, but I was like "no way, that cannot be a real launch from Apple"

Oh, it will sell! For the very reason it's $230 (remember the "I am Rich" app of olden days?).

It's definitely a signal

Re: iPhone Pocket

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Post by fragmede »

tzs wrote: post #955
oidar wrote: post #59

This is the best idea since having a charging port on the bottom of a mouse. Finally, a product we can source from the US completely.

Almost no one who actually uses one has ever been bothered by the charging port on the bottom. If for some reason they ignore the low battery warning that occurs days before it runs out of power and it actually dies, 2 minutes on the charger will provide enough charge to get through the rest of their day.

Yet it still continually comes up. You ever wonder why? It's because "Almost no one who actually uses one" is incredibly dismissive of the people who do have a problem with it. It's like being disabled, like blind people or wheelchair users, or foreign language support. In this case, it's neurodivergent people. It's "you're holding it wrong", it's Apple shuffling things under the bed and pretending they don't exist, just buy their shiny new thing and your problems go away. And consumers supporting them in that while Tim Cook laughs all the way to the bank.

Yeah, no one you know has that problem. For the people for whom it's a problem, it's a problem! You can dismiss them and say well they shouldn't be like that, or that they're being crazy, but at the end of the day, even after you've called them crazy and don't care about them, they're still them, and they still have to deal with a mouse that doesn't work for them. They still have to deal with the problem. Severe untreated ADHD means poor time management, low executive function, and zero impulse control. This means waiting until right when the project is due to start working on it, this means emotionally the user is panicking, so having to sit still and let it charge is physically painful.

Yes, neurotypicals don't have this issue. Good for them! Apple isn't the problem user's therapist, that user can't access healthcare anyway, and it's their problem, not yours.

The charging point on the bottom of the mouse is fine.

Re: iPhone Pocket

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Post by lunias »

jonathanlb wrote: post #157
ricochet11 wrote: post #146

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I once paid $1000 for some sneakers. I’m still regularly wearing them 7 years later. I’ve bought $50/$100 and they never last that long. It was an insane purchase at the time, done in a moment of jet lagged madness when my shoes fell apart in an airport. But over time it’s turned out to be a great investment. Smart, comfortable, well made.

As someone who is on the lookout for long-lasting durable products, what brand and model sneakers did you buy? How often do you wear these? I've heard that Common Projects are pretty good at a $400 retail price point, but it sounds like you got something else.

I got a pair of Common Projects Chelsea boots maybe 10 years ago now. I still have them, they're good shoes. I wore them all the time for the first year I got them. They don't make it into my rotation much now these days though. My most worn shoes now are: Guidi PL2, 11 by BBSxSalomon Bamba 2 high, Rick Owens "Vans", Rick Owens "Dunks", CCP Prosthetic Tornados, and Visvim Christo slides. Everything except the Bamba 2 highs is a replica and cost under $400.

Re: iPhone Pocket

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Post by jrcplus »

huffer wrote: post #918
vessenes wrote: post #853

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Exactly my reaction. I hate this. I hate that someone thought of it and that it exists. I have no idea if it will sell, but I was like "no way, that cannot be a real launch from Apple"

Oh, it will sell! For the very reason it's $230 (remember the "I am Rich" app of olden days?).

I remember.

Re: iPhone Pocket

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Post by lunias »

theF00l wrote: post #487
sincerely wrote: post #442

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in my experience as a tech guy who got into fashion and then after several years went back to not caring: Sneakers are the product category with the least differentiation in value-for-money between the high end (especially designer, but also not-designer-but-still-expensive like common projects) both in terms of aesthetics and quality/durability. You're paying $300 more for a 10% better product. Jeans, outerwear, kni…

As a tech guy who found an interest in design and ancillary fields recently, I am curious to know more. I assume leather, merino wool, cashmere do provide extra value. But other than that I have no knowledge. Eg why would 500 pants be better?

I have 2 pairs of pants that cost over $500. Both of them use technical fabrics (Schoeller Dryskin and Stotz EtaProof), have complex patterns (asymmetrical, articulated, etc.), lots of hardware (Riri zippers, magnetic pocket closures, Cobrax snaps), and can be ordered in custom sizing. They also have no text / logos anywhere on the pants. One pair is garment dyed as a complete unit after sewing to give a unique effect that's more interesting and has more "depth" compared to a flat, consistent color.

Re: iPhone Pocket

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Post by Mawr »

pantalaimon wrote: post #372
fxtentacle wrote: post #63

Awww... I was so much hoping for an iPhone that will fit into my pocket. The 1st iPhone SE was the perfect form factor. But no, Apple's phones just had to grow and grow and grow like cancer ... In my opinion, the fact that Apple is now selling a bag to carry your oversized phone around in, is an admission that they failed to make phones that are convenient to carry.

I'm surprised trouser pocket sizes have not adapted to the larger phones.

I'm surprised hand sizes haven't either. Er, Apple is, apparently.

Re: iPhone Pocket

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Post by lunias »

fxtentacle wrote: post #63

Awww... I was so much hoping for an iPhone that will fit into my pocket. The 1st iPhone SE was the perfect form factor. But no, Apple's phones just had to grow and grow and grow like cancer ... In my opinion, the fact that Apple is now selling a bag to carry your oversized phone around in, is an admission that they failed to make phones that are convenient to carry.

I've been yelling into the void for smaller phones for ~15 years now. I get that I'm not the audience... I use a PC all day. I only use my phone for text communication, talking with my parents, maps, weather, and maybe a bit of web surfing while I'm waiting in line somewhere.

I see a lot of similarities between big cars and big phones: i.e. They're not really well suited to their most-common applications and there is also not much of another choice. The average person seems to just gobble it up without much thought though. Very strange from my perspective.

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