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U.S. bombs Iranian nuclear sites

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Re: U.S. bombs Iranian nuclear sites

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Post by isubkhankulov »

layer8 wrote: post #957
GMoromisato wrote: post #884

I'm curious to hear people's predictions for the future: 1. Will Iran escalate, stay-the-course, or yield more in negotiations? Or take some other action I haven't thought of. 2. If Iran escalates, how far will it go? 3. If Iran does a token retaliation without major escalation, but refuses to give up its remaining nuclear program, what happens? Will the Israeli's be satisfied with a 2-4 year delay in Iran's program…

Medvedev wrote on social media today that “Critical infrastructure of the nuclear fuel cycle appears to have been unaffected or sustained only minor damage. The enrichment of nuclear material — and, now we can say it outright, the future production of nuclear weapons — will continue. A number of countries are ready to directly supply Iran with their own nuclear warheads”. If there’s anything to that statement, things…

Medvedev is like the US’s Lindsey Graham. Of all the politicians, they are to be least trusted due to their absurd hawkish takes.

Re: U.S. bombs Iranian nuclear sites

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Post by burnt-resistor »

zild3d wrote: post #676
Simon_O_Rourke wrote: post #633

That's an all around bad move for the US. Getting dragged into an Israeli war and probably having to carry the can for the next few years alone after getting into a mess not of our own making (well directly anyway). This is going to hit gas prices, the markets and US security considerations all in order to help keep the current Israeli leadership out of Israeli prisons. Bad move.

> the US. Getting dragged into an Israeli war A lot of people saying this, what would this actually entail? My money is much more on this being a "1 and done" exchange. Iran poses very little threat now, launchers being taken out everyday, leadership chain wiped out, seemingly no other Iran allies getting pulled into the fold

You missed the point: this was entirely for show, may not have accomplished any or all of the mission objectives claimed, and, in all likelihood, setup thousands of American civilians for a series of 9/11-like terrorist attacks for the next 20 years. The reality show circus continues.

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Post by gaoryrt »

Findecanor wrote: post #732
tptacek wrote: post #23

I think Netanyahu belongs in prison, and Trump, the less said the better, but: couldn't have happened to a nicer unauthorized weapons-grade uranium enrichment facility dug into the side of a mountain hours outside of population centers. If you haven't already, I highly recommend reading up on the GBU-57 "bunker buster" bomb, because it is some Merrie Melodies Acme brand munitions. It's deliberately as heavy as they c…

> I think Netanyahu belongs in prison For those who didn't know: There are multiple charges of corruption against him, which he is probably guilty of. But as long as he can lead Israel in a state of emergency, he can have those delayed, or perhaps even work around them. This new war against Iran also diverts attention away from what is happening in Gaza. The starvation has entered a new critical phase. The populace h…

As long as he can deliver a checkmate.

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Post by insane_dreamer »

GMoromisato wrote: post #884

I'm curious to hear people's predictions for the future: 1. Will Iran escalate, stay-the-course, or yield more in negotiations? Or take some other action I haven't thought of. 2. If Iran escalates, how far will it go? 3. If Iran does a token retaliation without major escalation, but refuses to give up its remaining nuclear program, what happens? Will the Israeli's be satisfied with a 2-4 year delay in Iran's program…

Trump’s now posting about regime change

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Post by ckemere »

During the period when Israel was rapidly achieving air superiority I was reflecting on the hypothetical- “What if Iran already had a small number - 1 or 2 - poorly tested weapons. When would they decide to use them? Would the Ayatollah order them to destroy Tel Aviv in revenge for killing him?”

And now, assuming this sets their program back 10-20 years, what will the answer to that question be?

Has anyone seen any analysis on this? It feels like maybe the nuke might be less of a deterrent than threatening to acquire one because using it would put you in a MAD situation where your ballistic missle might malfunction???

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Post by beefnugs »

NalNezumi wrote: post #774

One thing about this situation is that makes me reassess my impression of "deep state / military industrial complex". Both Trump and Tulsi Gabbard (pre election) was running a "no war" platform with heavy connotation of "deep state" and wars only serving special interests (including Israel). My impression was that this outsider aspect really bought many libertarian and non-hawk republicans vote. Hell, Gabbard was eve…

Deep state: Mr dump, we do wars to get access to more oil, not to cut off what we already have access to you dorky orangutan

Dump: I hired the greatest WOMAN that has ever lived to dismantle you deep state losers on day 1

Deep state: Sir, it is day 200

Dump: buy my son's phone, you can buy $TRUMP coin directly from us, any time of the day or night

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Post by elendee »

HellDunkel wrote: post #682
artoghrul wrote: post #622

The military industrial complex always wins in the US, even if the whole reason why you get elected is because you were against it. A majestic mockery of democracy.

There is more to be said about the voters than about the military industrial complex here.

this is blatant end-userism

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Post by latentcall »

curiousgal wrote: post #535
LAC-Tech wrote: post #497

I can't help but conclude the primary rogue state in region is not Iran - it's Israel: - Did not sign the non-proliferation treaty - Does not allow IAEA inspectors into their country - Nuclear weapons program widely believed to have started from material stolen from the US - Prime Minister wanted by the ICC for war crimes. Since 2023, they have: - Invaded and occupied parts of Syria and Lebanon - Bombed Syria, Lebano…

I am absolutely flabbergasted that very few are pointing this out. People seem to rally against Iran because of some hypothetical scenario where it could become...exactly like Israel.

Many people are blind to what Israel and USA does, or are always making excuses for them and they buy the state propaganda.

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Post by infecto »

JKCalhoun wrote: post #791
Simon_O_Rourke wrote: post #633

That's an all around bad move for the US. Getting dragged into an Israeli war and probably having to carry the can for the next few years alone after getting into a mess not of our own making (well directly anyway). This is going to hit gas prices, the markets and US security considerations all in order to help keep the current Israeli leadership out of Israeli prisons. Bad move.

Yep, the market was already on a precarious footing. Monday will likely be a blood bath.

Meh, Iran is only an oil provider for the Chinas of the world. Oil prices may go up but it will definitely not be a blood bath. This is a non-event.
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