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Post by FireBeyond »

kjkjadksj wrote: post #768
Workaccount2 wrote: post #635

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If the Dems of 2020 understood that twitter is largely a fringe group of outspoken individuals, they probably would have won in landslide victories. Even if Biden had chosen a strong leader as VP rather than go with a diversity hire to appease the twitterites, we still could have probably avoided this.

Replacing him with kamala was the stupidest thing the dnc has done in recent years. What a vote of no confidence towards your own party when you actually bend to trumps bullshit ageism rhetoric and replace him at the final hour with a pick no one voted for. I just do not understand the logic behind the move for the dnc at all. Especially in hindsight when whatever it was supposed to achieve did not work at all.

I think it's absolutely telling (on a number of levels, actually) that the number one Google search on Election Day was "Did Biden drop out?"

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Post by slater »

billy99k wrote: post #786
lemoncookiechip wrote: post #497

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Because this isn't about that. This is about having a perceived enemy that only you can fight. If it wasn't immigrants (legal or illegal), it would be a different group, within or outside of your borders. It's fascism 101.

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His supporters tried to overthrow the government.

Re: Marines being mobilized in response to LA protests

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Post by FireBeyond »

philwelch wrote: post #654
Scuds wrote: post #188

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there's a reason why people remember kent state.

Kent State is a classic case of historical revision. The majority of Americans supported the National Guard’s actions, in part because they were in valid fear for their lives after the rioters started throwing bricks at their heads.

Revisionism you say? Most accounts say that before the National Guard was involved, most of what was thrown was beer bottles at police cars.

The Wikipedia article on the shootings doesn't mention the word "brick" once. It also says:

"While on the practice field, the guardsmen generally faced the parking lot, about 100 yards (91 m) away. At one point, the guardsmen formed a loose huddle and appeared to be talking to one another. They had cleared the protesters from the Commons area, and many students had left.

Some students who had retreated beyond the practice field fence obtained rocks and possibly other objects with which they again began pelting the guardsmen. The number of rock throwers is unknown, with estimates of 10–50 throwers. According to an FBI assessment, rock-throwing peaked at this point. Tear gas was again fired at crowds at multiple locations."

So there were rocks being thrown at National Guard members who were ALREADY teargassing the boxed in group AND had knelt and aimed weapons.

Somehow you extrapolate that to average people going about their day and randomly taking a brick to the head... huh.

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Post by piperswe »

int_19h wrote: post #904
CapricornNoble wrote: post #895

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Marine officer here (Reservist). The officer corps has a LOT of careerist yes-men, if the enforcement of COVID vaccinations is anything to go by. I know a surprising number of Catholic Marines who refused to get COVID vaccinations and had to deal with significant pressures from senior officers over it. I'm not confident that commanders will refuse orders on the basis that they consider them illegal. EDIT: That said,…

I think the more interesting question is what happens when the right-wing paramilitaries (Three Percenters, Oath Keepers, and various assorted local militias) step in, if Trump gives the military orders to stand aside and let them do whatever.

I mean, if that were to happen I'd agree with Trump. We shouldn't be deploying the military against domestic paramilitaries, we should be deploying law enforcement or the National Guard.

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Post by TrapLord_Rhodo »

unethical_ban wrote: post #65

Whether or not someone supports the current topic of the mostly peaceful and somewhat rebellious and violent protests, this much is clear. You either support somewhat violent protests, regardless of topic, expecting that law enforcement and civilians will handle it amongst themselves, or you are authoritarian and demand that the federal government intervene with the US Armed Forces the moment someone throws a rock at…

> on the grounds that the people should never have the power to subvert the state.

Hmm... I don't think the second amendment gives you that right... That's called treason.

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Post by TrapLord_Rhodo »

2k NG, 9k Police, and LA is still burning. The protests are still violent. I'm not sure how this ends without a continued escalation and some very violent night that gets dubbed the "California massacre" in the history books. Deploying military members who are trained to put two in the chest and one in the head all but ensures this.

But then again, how are people protesting ICE doing their literal job? The other side of the coin is that anyone can come into the united states and live here. Which is an unsustainable policy.

I don't have the answers here, but i pray the violence stops.

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Post by thewileyone »

notepad0x90 wrote: post #245

Politics aside, LA just can't seem to catch a break. Floods last year, fires earlier this year and now this. That said, what the current administration is doing is almost like they're following a manual other countries followed on their road to nationalistic decline and all the right people in places of power seem to know this. I wonder if they're ready for it? My observation is that the previous administration had f…

> the previous administration had four years to pass laws and measures based on trump's first four years and they didn't

I don't think anyone anticipated how nutbag crazy things would get and the Dems didn't have the House or Senate to pass these laws anyway. Additionally the SCOTUS ruling made the president a king.

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Post by AlexeyBelov »

addandsubtract wrote: post #413
daft_pink wrote: post #114

I lived through the BLM protests in a liberal city. They let them destroy everything, then they called in the National Guard to stop looting that already happened. Everyone’s okay with peaceful protests, but they should call in the national guard and prosecute people for violence. You might hate Trump, but in my previous experience, it’s the residents of the most liberal districts that suffer all the consequences of…

You're making it sound like the "violence" started in a vacuum. Let's not forget where the actual violence and unlawfulness originated from – in both the BLM and ICE protests.

It's generally the police that starts being violent. It's a very well known tactic and not done just for fun (though I don't doubt they have fun doing it).
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