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Apple introduces a universal design across platforms

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Re: Apple introduces a universal design across platforms

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Post by vijucat »

fastasucan wrote: post #817
vijucat wrote: post #815

I got a minor amount of hate for it, but to repeat what I wrote here [1]: "Slowly, I'm coming to the conclusion that designers should never be employed, only consulted on a per-project basis. If they sit around 8 hours a day, they end up changing something or the other to justify their existence. But human beings are not used to change at such a rapid cadence. Humans take time to settle into a design and establish pa…

I don't understand how you can both appreciate the importance of good design, but at the same time claim that making good design is not a full time job.

Is changing the design even though users are perfectly happy "good design"? No, that is the "full time job" part kicking in.

Re: Apple introduces a universal design across platforms

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Post by x0xrx »

fortyseven wrote: post #960
nlarew wrote: post #275

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> things are now harder to read, identify, and understand What makes you think that? Do you have a specific example from the keynote in mind? There must be something since you've never actually used this design system yourself. Or is this just your pre-judgement?

There's literally dozens of examples being presented. Are you doing this on purpose to provoke a response?

I gotta be honest, I don’t find it particularly hard to read. I like how it makes it feel like there is “depth” to the screen, and when I focus on the top layer (eg Notification Center) the background falls away.

I can personally see how others would find it hard to read, just really doesn’t bother me. I can imagine being unconvinced that anyone really finds it to be that bad, and thinking it’s just HN contrarians being annoying, as usual.

Re: Apple introduces a universal design across platforms

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Post by jitl »

jitl wrote: post #961
msephton wrote: post #952

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It's already been imitated in CSS https://twitter.com/bbssppllvv/status/1932325303273271727

I think the hard part is the droplet animation when expanding/contracting controls, dragging, etc.

Plenty of those on Twitter too today

Re: Apple introduces a universal design across platforms

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Post by wpm »

thenaturalist wrote: post #769
wpm wrote: post #689

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It looks awful, and doesn't actually remove all of the transparency effects, though that might be due to the fact that its Beta 1.

I cannot confirm that. Reducing transparency, the entire background gets greyed and the background/ look is much more akin to iOS 18.

Except in Safari, you can still see the text on the page behind the URL bar as you scroll.

Re: Apple introduces a universal design across platforms

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Post by _aavaa_ »

al_borland wrote: post #420
diggan wrote: post #223

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This was also my first thought, "imagine how many who think their device is too old after installing this "everything transparent" OS update". I bet shareholders will love it though.

We had operating systems with transparent windows 20 years ago. I have a hard time believing this UI will stress any device released in the last 5 years. One of the more common “problems” people have is that their devices are so much more powerful than they will ever use.

Go look at videos of the current UI. It's not just doing an alpha blend between two static images. It's doing real time effects to mimic refraction and color separation the way you except to see through glass.

Also, 20 years ago you're talking about desktops connected to the wall, or laptops with no expectations of battery life. The name of the game for phones is use the hardware as little as possible a down clock asap. The fancier the UI, the longer older hardware need to stay upclocked and the more they have to work to hit 60fps (or more) smoothly.

Re: Apple introduces a universal design across platforms

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Post by xandrius »

bigyabai wrote: post #697
weird-eye-issue wrote: post #573

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This looks like a screenshot from one of the jailbreak themes from like 15 years ago, and not one of the good ones

As a former Cydia user, my 12-year-old self takes that as validation that I was living in the future after all!

Cydia would be the only way I'd ever go back to using an iPhone as my main driver. Good days.

Re: Apple introduces a universal design across platforms

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Post by bigyabai »

xandrius wrote: post #976
bigyabai wrote: post #697

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As a former Cydia user, my 12-year-old self takes that as validation that I was living in the future after all!

Cydia would be the only way I'd ever go back to using an iPhone as my main driver. Good days.

I can't even be sure Cydia is enough. I switched to Android a looong time ago and never looked back (not even for Cydia, sorry saurik :P).

Re: Apple introduces a universal design across platforms

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Post by settsu »

apetresc wrote: post #954
settsu wrote: post #922

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> millenials liking vaporwave From context, I'm assuming this is a misnomer and not a jab. XD (Although, admittedly, I'm not sure what the reference is actually to...)

I'm not sure what you mean; vaporwave is neither a misnomer nor a jab. Did you think they meant vaporware? The vaporwave aesthetic is that neon, retro-futuristic, laser-beam-y type look.

*facepalm* You're correct. I misread it every time, including the first time I scanned your comment. (A truly strange experience since that is not a common occurrence for me. I simply never saw a "v" there.)

Re: Apple introduces a universal design across platforms

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Post by drob518 »

solfox wrote: post #868
drob518 wrote: post #567

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These modern chips have so much graphics processing capability, I think they just throw the problem at the hardware and let it do its thing.

It may not be overt, but it also seems they are working to justify the hardware with the software.

Yes, but I think it’s about giving the consumer “more” so that the upgrade train doesn’t stall out and stop moving. They need everyone upgrading iPhones every 3 years and,people won’t do that for just an abstract “it’s faster.”
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