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Musk-led group makes $97B bid for control of OpenAI

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Re: Musk-led group makes $97B bid for control of OpenAI

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I absolutely hate how much CEOs acting like children / influencers has become the norm. Maybe they were always like this, and twitter has just given us a window into it, but I for one would wholeheartedly welcome a return to "respectability" norms for business and civic leaders.

The name-calling in public discourse wears on me. Ad-hominems, bad faith arguments. I’ve gotten to where I avoid the news altogether because of this seemingly accelerating trend.

hear no evil...

Re: Musk-led group makes $97B bid for control of OpenAI

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Musk wasn't on the ballot.

So you can't hire him as part of the department? There are hundreds of department heads that are not elected eithier.

None of them are giving press conferences in the Oval Office and acting like they're above the law. Typically when someone has as much power as Musk, they must either be elected or confirmed by the Senate.

At the very least Musk needs to explain some thing under oath, especially the processes he's put in place to deal with his massive conflicts of interest. He was asked about those yesterday, and he explained there is no conflict because he's posting everything transparently on Twitter, which is itself a conflict of interest.

Re: Musk-led group makes $97B bid for control of OpenAI

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Elon's response: https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1889062013109703009 > Swindler In another tweet chain: https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1889063777792069911 > Scam Altman

I absolutely hate how much CEOs acting like children / influencers has become the norm. Maybe they were always like this, and twitter has just given us a window into it, but I for one would wholeheartedly welcome a return to "respectability" norms for business and civic leaders.

Didn't Epstein's pedophile island prove once and for all that billionaires are not "better" in any way, shape, or form than mere mortals? They are where they are because of luck and not because of any inherent qualities.

Re: Musk-led group makes $97B bid for control of OpenAI

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You don't understand, it was promotion of _the right things_, it doesn't count as propaganda. /s

The twitter files broke so many people's brains. They revealed essentially nothing of consequence, but it validates those who were already convinced that twitter was "silencing conservative voices". Of course when we look at any sort of success metrics that actually matter to a twitter personality, the top spots are overwhelmingly conservative pundits, and essentially always have been.

Except for when they, you know, get banned entirely

Re: Musk-led group makes $97B bid for control of OpenAI

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It’s pretty wild to try to claim twitter wasn’t a propaganda machine before musk

I didn't realize I was implying that. It was def a propaganda machine before, but I hope we can agree that under Musk it is a very different machine

To turn something into implies it isn’t already

Re: Musk-led group makes $97B bid for control of OpenAI

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So you can't hire him as part of the department? There are hundreds of department heads that are not elected eithier.

None of them are giving press conferences in the Oval Office and acting like they're above the law. Typically when someone has as much power as Musk, they must either be elected or confirmed by the Senate. At the very least Musk needs to explain some thing under oath, especially the processes he's put in place to deal with his massive conflicts of interest. He was asked about those yesterday, and he explained there i…

The president has broad authority to build his team and run his departments as he see's fit. Congress has the right to elect department heads but if a special initiative is created under the treasury department, that department does not need to be nominated. Elon has special overnment initiative to find massive waste... He has shown that the Social security database is de-duplicated and there are thousands of individuals above the age of 150. Hundreds of treasury employees have access to the same database he has, and most of the data analysis can be done open source via FPDS-NG.

Re: Musk-led group makes $97B bid for control of OpenAI

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None of them are giving press conferences in the Oval Office and acting like they're above the law. Typically when someone has as much power as Musk, they must either be elected or confirmed by the Senate. At the very least Musk needs to explain some thing under oath, especially the processes he's put in place to deal with his massive conflicts of interest. He was asked about those yesterday, and he explained there i…

The president has broad authority to build his team and run his departments as he see's fit. Congress has the right to elect department heads but if a special initiative is created under the treasury department, that department does not need to be nominated. Elon has special overnment initiative to find massive waste... He has shown that the Social security database is de-duplicated and there are thousands of individ…

> The president has broad authority to build his team and run his departments as he see's fit.

Outside of the Executive Office of the President, that's not really all that true (between statutory constraints and officers subject to Senate confirmation), and the Departments are not his, which is the critical distinction between a monarchy, in which the government is the personal domain of its head, and a republic.

> He has shown that the Social security database is de-duplicated

I think you mean “not de-duplicated” and that it is not (and why) is not a new revelation by Musk, it has been well-known and, ironically, a common example of various lessons in real world database design for at least a generation.

Re: Musk-led group makes $97B bid for control of OpenAI

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It feels like Musk is single-handedly making a great case for why unlimited accumulation of wealth is a bad idea. It's pretty colorful language, but my mind immediately jumps to "financial terrorist". He's using his enormous amount of wealth and influence as a weapon to bludgeon anyone and anything in his way.

How much of it is tied up to a criminally overvalued Tesla stock though? Sure, Tesla could go to zero and he'd still be a fabulously wealthy man, but with how things are moving - It wouldn't surprise me that he's about the fall down the ranks. Let's see how much power he has once the "richest man in the world" aura fades away.

you think it's bad now... Wait till tesla starts selling optimus at scale and SpaceX starts controlling strategically valuable resources in LEO by space mining. Elon's not the one you need to worry about, it's his son X.

Re: Musk-led group makes $97B bid for control of OpenAI

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The president has broad authority to build his team and run his departments as he see's fit. Congress has the right to elect department heads but if a special initiative is created under the treasury department, that department does not need to be nominated. Elon has special overnment initiative to find massive waste... He has shown that the Social security database is de-duplicated and there are thousands of individ…

> The president has broad authority to build his team and run his departments as he see's fit. Outside of the Executive Office of the President, that's not really all that true (between statutory constraints and officers subject to Senate confirmation), and the Departments are not his, which is the critical distinction between a monarchy, in which the government is the personal domain of its head, and a republic. > H…

You hand-wave this away with "This has been known for decades"… Well, why does it take an unelected South African to step up and fix it?

The reality is that just because something has been “known for decades” doesn’t mean it has been addressed—especially in government bureaucracies, where inefficiency, inertia, and misaligned incentives often prevent meaningful reform. The persistence of outdated Social Security records, massive waste, and fraud is a perfect example of systemic dysfunction.

The president, as the chief executive, has broad authority to ensure that executive agencies function efficiently and effectively. While there are statutory and congressional constraints, the executive branch is ultimately responsible for implementing policies and running departments. If existing bureaucrats and Treasury officials have had access to this data for years but failed to act, then it is not only within the president’s prerogative but arguably his duty to bring in outside expertise—whether that be Musk or anyone else—to tackle waste and inefficiency.

Re: Musk-led group makes $97B bid for control of OpenAI

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People call Putin enough names. I'm sure they have a lot of reasons for that. Same goes for Gavin.

People mostly use descriptions like "dictator" or "murderer" for Putin, not wordplay based insults.

Never spoken with a Russian I see...
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