Meta torrented & seeded 81.7 TB dataset containing copyrighted data

I would like to start with this: what is the advantage of other countries enjoying the work of artists/authors for free?

My point, from the very beginning, is that the concept of copyright does not seem entirely, as in 100% stupid. I am not saying that it is perfect the way it is now. Just that throwing it away entirely is maybe not what we want. I hate it when BigTech abuses copyright, but the problem is BigTech there.

Copyright is also what makes copyleft possible. Which I believe is a good thing to protect the users from the corporations.

And finally IP laws are what prevents an employee from leaving a company with all the code, renaming/rebranding it and selling it for a fraction of the price. Doesn't seem completely ridiculous, does it?

> You seem to be operating under the assumption I came to these views from an ivory tower.

Not at all. I operate under the assumption that you don't have that need anymore. Apparently you did, and because you got to where you are, you now believe that it's all based on merit and that people who don't manage to do the same don't deserve any empathy. Or something like that?

It's a typical US mentality, though (the "all I have is based on merit and merit only, and I don't want to pay for others").

> Laws work in a subset of countries, and a lot of countries straight up ignore them. That gives them a major advantage over us.

There is plenty of need for laws inside a country as big as the US. Not seeing that suggests that you are in a pretty good situation now and don't care about those who aren't.

Reputation doesn't work. Do I need to mention the nazi billionaire who now controls the US government as an example?

> We should regulate the shit out of corporations to protect the freedom and privacy of users and prevent monopolies.

Exactly. I don't think he says "we should remove copyright as a concept entirely.

It's very simple logic, and it doesn't require your understanding to be true. Piracy is good for companies? Really? That's... your legitimate position?

If nobody is paying for anything how does a company operate? That's not a rhetorical question. Is it fairy dust? Perhaps magical pixies keep the lights running?

If you don't have explanations for even the simplest of problems with your position, your position isn't worth listening to.

You must agree companies require money to operate. No money, no company. You must also agree that piracy OR any action which takes money away from a company results in less money. In addition, you must agree every individual will take whichever action costs them the least amount of money.

Okay. Do you see where I'm going? Following these very simple rules, the result is that there is no money left for companies, and they go under.

Whether that's bad or not is, technically, debatable. Whether that's how it works or not, isn't.

I grow tired of having to explain very simple logic to bumbling idiots. Of course you're not a bumbling idiot. Rather, you're someone with a belief and a delusion. Meaning, you will simply ignore any and all reality to maintain your belief, even if, right before your very eyes, it is refuted. I don't know why people act this way. Maybe there's some medication that can help with that.

People might say I'm a prophet, maybe some kind of psychic. Really, I'm just a guy with, like, a quarter of a brain. We can often "see into the future" if we just rub some brain cells and put two and two together.

Until you can find away around these rules, perhaps some alternative economic system which has not been invented, there is nothing for you to refute. Not that you've been trying at all, your entire "argument" has been "erm, I disagree". Which, by the way, is not an argument. It's more of a statement, and one which is embarrassing to say out loud when you don't have anything to back it up with.

And, to be clear, this is well past the land of morality. I'm operating in a much simpler framework here. Even if you're under the belief everyone is perfect, or some people are perfect and some aren't, or whatever other moral beliefs - that doesn't change the rules and therefore doesn't change the result.