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Re: TikTok says it is restoring service for U.S. users

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Post by Thorrez » Mon, Jan 20, 2025, 5:13 PM UTC

yalogin wrote: post #968

The US presidency fully devolved into a mafia this time around, no more mincing words or operating behind the scenes. Just like a mafia don demands, all fealty should be in public and fully subservient, no half measures. Till now, commenting or criticizing someone was fair game, not anymore. Musk and trump have shown they can petty and vindictive. So no more commenting in public too. Not sure what this does to the pr…

>Till now, commenting or criticizing someone was fair game, not anymore. Musk and trump have shown they can petty and vindictive.

Tons of people criticize both of them. In fact, both Musk and Trump have publicly criticized each other, and have now made up.

Re: TikTok says it is restoring service for U.S. users

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Post by odiroot » Mon, Jan 20, 2025, 5:18 PM UTC

ornornor wrote: post #841

President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho to the rescue!! For those who haven’t seen it yet, go watch Idiocracy from Mike Judge. It’s a preview of the years to come.

Or way older and much more eloquent (albeit less digestible) "Amusing Ourselves to Death" by Neil Postman. Or even older "The Medium Is the Massage" by Marshall McLuhan.

Re: TikTok says it is restoring service for U.S. users

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Post by ARandomerDude » Mon, Jan 20, 2025, 5:20 PM UTC

yalogin wrote: post #968

The US presidency fully devolved into a mafia this time around, no more mincing words or operating behind the scenes. Just like a mafia don demands, all fealty should be in public and fully subservient, no half measures. Till now, commenting or criticizing someone was fair game, not anymore. Musk and trump have shown they can petty and vindictive. So no more commenting in public too. Not sure what this does to the pr…

You're very late to the party.

https://oversight.house.gov/the-bidens-influence-peddling-ti...

Re: TikTok says it is restoring service for U.S. users

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Post by bgun » Mon, Jan 20, 2025, 5:21 PM UTC

Thorrez wrote: post #971

yalogin wrote: post #968

The US presidency fully devolved into a mafia this time around, no more mincing words or operating behind the scenes. Just like a mafia don demands, all fealty should be in public and fully subservient, no half measures. Till now, commenting or criticizing someone was fair game, not anymore. Musk and trump have shown they can petty and vindictive. So no more commenting in public too. Not sure what this does to the pr…

>Till now, commenting or criticizing someone was fair game, not anymore. Musk and trump have shown they can petty and vindictive. Tons of people criticize both of them. In fact, both Musk and Trump have publicly criticized each other, and have now made up.

Republicans have learned to weaponize attention far better than Democrats. Negative attention is still attention, and where Democrats shrink from "gaffes" or criticism, Republicans just recognize that public criticism is still a form of attention. Even among each other. Whoever gets the most eyeballs, top stories, and headlines for longest wins this game.

Vicious, vindictive, petty, nonsensical, random, and trolling tactics are all strategically useful in this media landscape.

Re: TikTok says it is restoring service for U.S. users

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Post by roboror » Mon, Jan 20, 2025, 5:23 PM UTC

Thorrez wrote: post #971

yalogin wrote: post #968

The US presidency fully devolved into a mafia this time around, no more mincing words or operating behind the scenes. Just like a mafia don demands, all fealty should be in public and fully subservient, no half measures. Till now, commenting or criticizing someone was fair game, not anymore. Musk and trump have shown they can petty and vindictive. So no more commenting in public too. Not sure what this does to the pr…

>Till now, commenting or criticizing someone was fair game, not anymore. Musk and trump have shown they can petty and vindictive. Tons of people criticize both of them. In fact, both Musk and Trump have publicly criticized each other, and have now made up.

Correct, but now there will be not even a semblance of bipartisanship. It's not even enough to be a member of the same party, you must pledge full unwavering loyalty and never criticize the administration or face the consequences of being ostracized, attacked, power revoked, and prosecuted by a weaponized DOJ. The media, both social and legacy, are fully on board now too, the gloves are off.

Also, you can now commit crimes and then pledge loyalty in exchange for a pardon. See Eric Adams.

Re: TikTok says it is restoring service for U.S. users

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Post by danlivingston » Mon, Jan 20, 2025, 5:36 PM UTC

ARandomerDude wrote: post #973

yalogin wrote: post #968

The US presidency fully devolved into a mafia this time around, no more mincing words or operating behind the scenes. Just like a mafia don demands, all fealty should be in public and fully subservient, no half measures. Till now, commenting or criticizing someone was fair game, not anymore. Musk and trump have shown they can petty and vindictive. So no more commenting in public too. Not sure what this does to the pr…

You're very late to the party. https://oversight.house.gov/the-bidens-influence-peddling-ti...

How is this at all related to what the person was saying? They made no mention of financial corruption. They're explicitly talking about speech and press.

Re: TikTok says it is restoring service for U.S. users

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Post by ffqqyyee » Mon, Jan 20, 2025, 5:36 PM UTC

fqye wrote: post #899

_7acn wrote: post #876

I think apps like TikTok or YouTube Shorts literally brainwash people. It’s one of the dumbest things ever invented on the Internet, yet incredibly addictive at the same time.

I can't believe how ignorant some people could be. It is so easy to find reports and evidence of how Tiktok could be of great value to people. https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/16/dining/tiktok-ban-cooking... https://www.today.com/popculture/books/what-is-booktok-meani... https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-67555175

> I can't believe how ignorant some people could be.

Wow, it goes deeeeeeep.

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Post by red-iron-pine » Mon, Jan 20, 2025, 5:41 PM UTC

ARandomerDude wrote: post #973

yalogin wrote: post #968

The US presidency fully devolved into a mafia this time around, no more mincing words or operating behind the scenes. Just like a mafia don demands, all fealty should be in public and fully subservient, no half measures. Till now, commenting or criticizing someone was fair game, not anymore. Musk and trump have shown they can petty and vindictive. So no more commenting in public too. Not sure what this does to the pr…

You're very late to the party. https://oversight.house.gov/the-bidens-influence-peddling-ti...

additionally, wasn't the "whistleblower" who made many claims about Hunter Biden's laptop found to be blatantly fraudulent? dude was later convicted for making false statements.

IIRC the Romanian and Kazakstan ones were also heavily thrown into doubt.

whole thing reads like whataboutism

Re: TikTok says it is restoring service for U.S. users

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Post by quickslowdown » Mon, Jan 20, 2025, 5:44 PM UTC

ARandomerDude wrote: post #973

yalogin wrote: post #968

The US presidency fully devolved into a mafia this time around, no more mincing words or operating behind the scenes. Just like a mafia don demands, all fealty should be in public and fully subservient, no half measures. Till now, commenting or criticizing someone was fair game, not anymore. Musk and trump have shown they can petty and vindictive. So no more commenting in public too. Not sure what this does to the pr…

You're very late to the party. https://oversight.house.gov/the-bidens-influence-peddling-ti...

At the risk of "what about"-ing, this list is laughably small compared to the Trump's bribe docket.

Neither of these are acceptable, a president and their associates should not be able to personally enrich themselves from the office. I know this disclaimer won't matter to someone who just really wants to argue, but this does absolutely nothing to move the needle for me. Pointing to someone else's corruption to excuse Trump's corruption is just a losing battle, you will never convince me to care about one when the other is just allowed to fly.

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Post by jayd16 » Mon, Jan 20, 2025, 5:46 PM UTC

ARandomerDude wrote: post #973

yalogin wrote: post #968

The US presidency fully devolved into a mafia this time around, no more mincing words or operating behind the scenes. Just like a mafia don demands, all fealty should be in public and fully subservient, no half measures. Till now, commenting or criticizing someone was fair game, not anymore. Musk and trump have shown they can petty and vindictive. So no more commenting in public too. Not sure what this does to the pr…

You're very late to the party. https://oversight.house.gov/the-bidens-influence-peddling-ti...

Comparing Hunter Bidens sale of his name to the Trump organization as if it's the same is so laughable.

How many pump and dump crypto scams is Joe up to? "Media" company stock sell offs? Hotels he puts government employees in so he can charge their stay?