Supreme Court upholds TikTok ban, but Trump might offer lifeline

Post by rsanek » Sat, Jan 18, 2025, 3:55 PM UTC

lmm wrote: post #966

tlogan wrote: post #964

If TikTok is truly banned on Sunday and no action is taken to stop it, the company’s value could drop significantly—perhaps by as much as 90%. This raises an even bigger question: Who really owns TikTok? Who is the true decision-maker behind the scenes? Who is so wealthy and powerful that they’re willing to let $100 billion vanish? The answer to that question will be more obvious.

> Who really owns TikTok? Who is the true decision-maker behind the scenes? Who is so wealthy and powerful that they’re willing to let $100 billion vanish? They're hardly "letting" it happen. What exactly can you do when the US government decides they want to smash your business and take your stuff?

Post by DiogenesKynikos » Sat, Jan 18, 2025, 3:58 PM UTC

insane_dreamer wrote: post #904

joshfee wrote: post #584

I think the easiest answer to follow for "why is this not prevented by free speech protection" is "the fact that petitioners “cannot avoid or mitigate” the effects of the Act by altering their speech." (page 10 of this ruling, but is a reference to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turner_Broadcasting_System,_In... )

It's amazing to me how many people are derailed by the free speech argument. This is about who controls the network, not the content on the network. There is a law that only U.S. citizens can own TV stations. That's why Murdoch became a US citizen (allowing him to buy Fox). This is in a similar vein.

Post by rsanek » Sat, Jan 18, 2025, 4:22 PM UTC

EVa5I7bHFq9mnYK wrote: post #954

I can't imagine the ban can't be circumvented with some creative use of VPN, geo spoofing etc. If I were a TikTok fan, I'd launch an Android emulator in a VPS in a censorship free country and install TikTok there.

Post by bushbaba » Sat, Jan 18, 2025, 4:26 PM UTC

scotty79 wrote: post #965

elzbardico wrote: post #181

This is going to be an interesting experiment: A widely used social network across the world WITHOUT american content. Until now, the closest thing we had like this were national our regional networks like Russia's vk, but Vk was never truly popular outside Russian speaking countries. Now we, for the first time ever, will have the situation where a social network has global reach but without american content. Will it…

I don't think US content will disappear from TikTok. Most viral creators know how to use VPN. No one's gonna leave such a huge pile of eyeballs on the table.

Post by bushbaba » Sat, Jan 18, 2025, 4:28 PM UTC

cryptonector wrote: post #699

elzbardico wrote: post #181

This is going to be an interesting experiment: A widely used social network across the world WITHOUT american content. Until now, the closest thing we had like this were national our regional networks like Russia's vk, but Vk was never truly popular outside Russian speaking countries. Now we, for the first time ever, will have the situation where a social network has global reach but without american content. Will it…

> This is going to be an interesting experiment: Unclear. Biden and Trump both have stated that they will decline to enforce this law.