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Post by modeless »

hackpert wrote: post #916
modeless wrote: post #683

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Hard edged, per-pixel light blocking is impossible for the foreseeable future. What's possible today, and what Magic Leap has, is diffuse dimming of large areas of the display. The problem with light blocking is that when the blocker is millimeters from your eye it is completely out of focus. Unlike for the display, you can't use optics to make it appear farther away and in focus because the direction of the light it…

That's fair but what if you could estimate the direction of incoming light with other sensors? Using inverse diffraction etc. Just a thought

I'm not sure what you mean. Light is coming in from all directions simultaneously.

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Post by specproc »

Meniceses wrote: post #894
raxxorraxor wrote: post #848

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For me personally they build a lot of trust back with their work on llama. Also they do have capable software engineers. But hardware is a different thing. I am still burned by their handling of hardware support for Oculus devices. To such a degree that neither VR nor AR is of significant interest anymore, never mind developing software for such products. That said, I was never a Facebook user. I do have an account a…

Paid and provided by "Pay to win games, targeting kids, not preventing fake news (covid, human harrassment etc.), probably someone died due to lack of taking ownership/responsibility, election fraud through not acting on it. Yes i do like Llama but lets be honest who paid for it and for what. Just because suckerburg gives us nice toys... He could actually start giving his money away to humanity in a relevant and mean…

I don't think we need more billionaires giving their money away. I think they and their companies need to pay tax properly so we can vote on how it's spent.

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Post by saagarjha »

entropicdrifter wrote: post #37

Reminds of the anime Dennou Coil. I hope someday AR becomes boring tech and we'll be able to buy devices from less-sinister companies that won't be monitoring our eye positions and iris dilation in order to manipulate our attention for profit. Better yet, an AR device that integrates with your PC rather than a cloud-based anything.

Is Megamass more or less sinister than Meta in this scenario

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Post by al_borland »

__MatrixMan__ wrote: post #840
al_borland wrote: post #587

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> optimizing ad placement I don't know about anyone else, but I will never buy AR glasses with ads. That's a deal breaker for me.

Why do you suppose meta would be working on them if not to help sell ad placement somehow?

I realize ads are Facebook’s primary revenue source, but ad support isn’t the only business model, especially when selling hardware.

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Post by crabmusket »

_flux wrote: post #769
murermader wrote: post #625

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Complex solution to a simple problem. Just ban ads in cities. Like some cities have already done. Then the ads that are left are just for stuff that is important, e.g. events, music, etc. No need for AI filtering algorithms that have to decide what to block and what to leave.

On the other hand, your solution requires a lot of people to agree and possibly turn away some money, whereas the AR solution (once available) can be individually applied without any decisions by others; only for the one person to decide whether to buy it or not (if they have the money). So it's not that clear to me which one of these is complex and which simple.

Turn away from the public, turn away from democratic participation, turn inward into your own curated world.

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Post by crabmusket »

ang_cire wrote: post #736
vunderba wrote: post #469

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Because you're thinking of the possibilities from a very narrow angle (communication, passive media consumption, and productivity). The educational potential for AR is absolutely incredible. Imagine being able to look down at a breadboard, and have it overlay explanations, diagrams, current flows, etc. Imagine putting a person in front of you who is juggling (mills mess, box pattern, etc) and slowing it down to exact…

See, the only one there that actually sounds useful to me and not a clumsier version of something I can already do, is the breadboard. But I'd much rather have that as a holo table-like system than AR glasses: https://newatlas.com/vr/voxon-photonics-3d-hologram-volumetr...

Sounds like a great application of a Dynamicland-like lab system, especially in an educational environment like a university which already has a lab setup.

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Post by zer0zzz »

nick486 wrote: post #958
zer0zzz wrote: post #874

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Did you just compare a Silicon Valley tech company selling ads to IG Farben? It’s very hard to take this post seriously even though your point stands.

Why ? The discussion is about fixing brand reputation, and he quotes probably one of the most disgustingly successful rebrands in history. If even IG Farben managed to successfully rebrand, surely a company that just went "a little too far" with private data, can too. Looks quite on topic to me.

It’s a level of hyperbole that could only be taken seriously by an autistic person or someone in tech. That’s why.

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Post by sarthakdash »

wilsonnb3 wrote: post #941
sarthakdash wrote: post #801

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You can try Asus Zenfone. It's smaller than an iPhone 13 Mini.

No it isn't, even the smaller Zenfones are significantly bigger than the iPhone mini.

Yeah my bad. Zenfone 10 is around 5 inches larger.

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Post by bensandcastle »

chabad360 wrote: post #636
bensandcastle wrote: post #543

Having built similar tech (Meta, YC S13), it's been a great year with Vision Pro, Orion, Spectacles and more coming out. Currently at my co, seeing most day to day use out of XReal, and keen for Visor. AR/XR/MR/VR app I'm most looking forward to is a 360 location share with the sharing user in AR, and the receiving user in VR, with additional virtual objects shared between. Orion would be great for the send side, wit…

Damn! That's a throwback. I remember reading about you guys in an airplane magazine once and getting hooked on the concept. I always wondered where y'all went...

a bunch at Vision Pro, some at Zuck's Meta, some at Hololens, some doing other things. Meron is doing BCI, I'm doing AI infra - strongcompute.com (YC W22)
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