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Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by kjkjadksj »

spicymaki wrote: post #364
stroupwaffle wrote: post #339

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My biggest complaint is that the lenses aren’t flush with the back. I hate having cases on my phone, and their design makes wireless charging somewhat useless because it’s not flush with the charging mat.

They would if they could. Optical physics is one factor that prevents the lenses from being flush with the back. If you want to support advanced optical features the lenses need depth.

Thats the thing, I don’t care about the optical features they rolled out. I have an interchangeable lens camera that is the tool for that job, 10 years old and still works great.

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by hbn »

can16358p wrote: post #828
paxys wrote: post #82

Smaller notch? Touch ID? Better battery life? Faster charging? Larger default storage? Nope, let's skip all that and spend most of the event talking about video recording. Is anyone here actually excited about the features they just announced? Or are people simply upgrading because they get the latest iPhone every year or two by default?

I personally don't care about smaller notch (wouldn't say no of course, but not dealbreaker) Battery life is more than enough for me almost every day. Why on Earth should I downgrade to Touch ID when using Face ID? I cared about the camera and improved ultra wide angle, 5x telephoto (my current one, 14 Pro Max has 3x) and 4K 120FPS HDR are enough for me to upgrade. I agree that the general improvements could be bette…

The new iPhones don't even have a notch anymore. The 14 Pro switched to the dynamic island 2 years ago, and last year the whole 15 lineup got it.

And the thing with the dynamic island is it's mostly drawn on in software. It's actually 2 small cutouts, a pill and a circle for FaceID and the selfie camera. They fill it in with the island at the top to make it look like it's all software, so I don't see them shrinking it since it's being used as a feature, where apps can minimize into it with live data (music playing, sports scores, etc)

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by kjkjadksj »

saagarjha wrote: post #835
werid wrote: post #798

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> You could set her back 8 iOS versions and she probably wouldn't notice. Because she uses none of the hundreds of features released since. Not because she dislikes them, she doesn't know they even exist. there's no manual to read. apple does not inform you in any way. finding out new features is by word of mouth. so annoying. i should not have to discover features on my very expensive phone by random chance via watc…

Have you tried the Tips app?

The fact that a helpful comment had to inform me of this apps existence really says it all. Just ship the damn documentation on the device.

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by NoLinkToMe »

panarky wrote: post #158
swyx wrote: post #113

i clipped the 5 mins on apple intelligence here for those interested https://x.com/swyx/status/1833231875537850659 notes: - photos/album search now includes video understanding, which imo seems very good from the first 2 examples they showed. includes scroll to exact time of the moment you describe. - Mail and Notifications will show summaries instead of str[:x] - Siri now knows iPhone, becomes the ultimate manual on…

"Insanely good ideas"? With the months of nonstop and over-the-top hype of "Apple Intelligence" these all seem underwhelming. Even in the idealized world of demoware there's no killer feature, not to mention that none of it is even available to real customers yet. I was expecting something only Apple could do with their vast ecosystem of IP and partnerships, the must-have cool new thing that would stimulate a leap in…

The action button being prime real estate I think shouldn't be understated.

It's a button that'll be in the hands and pockets of >1 billion people soon.

Each press allows these billion people to connect with a supplier of Intelligence. Whether it's ChatGPT, Google's search, Apple AI or whatever supplier. Apple controls the hardware.

Just think of Apple's contract with Google that nets them $20 billion a year in profit. For comparison, Walmart, Amazon, NVIDIA, Volkswagen, VISA, all had about 20 billion in net income in 2023.

Or think of the appstore as an analogy. Apple controls the gateway between consumer and supplier, and gains from it. This action button will be no different.

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by Zak »

Silasdev wrote: post #804
Zak wrote: post #568

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm a technically sophisticated user, and I don't want a new phone. I would almost certainly like it less than my current four year old phone. It would have a faster CPU, more RAM, and more storage, but it's rare I run into any of those limits. It would have a better camera than my current phone, but it would still be worse than my Olympus. It would have a bigger screen, but I wouldn't have a bigger hand and that wou…

Exactly. It's just a natural maturity-curve that every new piece of tech inevitably goes through. Tech on the maturity curve: ICE cars: settled EV cars: rising PC's: settled Phones: settled Smart TV's: slowly rising still Wearables: rising

It seems to me that it's based more on the use cases than the speed of improvements to the technology itself.

There were times when a CPU four times as fast changed what I could do with a PC. For a long time, with Moore's Law in full swing, we reliably got that sort of improvement every three years, and PCs older than that were widely seen as obsolete. Today that would only speed up batch jobs for me and have no impact on any of my workflows.

Some sort of on-device AI thing is probably the next threshold for PCs. I don't think there's anything production-ready and compelling right now, but I can imagine useful automation features when it gets good enough.

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by consf »

iteratethis wrote: post #258

I'm conflicted. It's absolutely stunning what smartphones can do these days and Apple makes an excellent product. It feels ungrateful and cynical to keep calling new models "boring". The reality though is that normie needs were accomplished several generations ago. I'll use my girlfriend as a sample of such user. She can't tell the difference between LCD and OLED nor would she notice Pro-motion. You can add a million…

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Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by HDThoreaun »

rudros wrote: post #321
strongpigeon wrote: post #307

I’m probably in the minority, but a thing I’d love to see is a much stronger flashlight. It’s silly, but the flashlight is something I use almost daily and having a more powerful one would be quite useful.

What a random feature request. In case you're not aware, you can open control center, long-press on the flashlight icon and you get to adjust the brightness of the flashlight. If you're not already at the max level, you might get a slightly (but definitely not much) stronger flashlight on your current phone.

Not sure how it's random. I use the flashlight every day as well. A better one(yes I have it maxed out already) would be more valuable to me than any of the features they announced today.

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by barnabee »

iteratethis wrote: post #258

I'm conflicted. It's absolutely stunning what smartphones can do these days and Apple makes an excellent product. It feels ungrateful and cynical to keep calling new models "boring". The reality though is that normie needs were accomplished several generations ago. I'll use my girlfriend as a sample of such user. She can't tell the difference between LCD and OLED nor would she notice Pro-motion. You can add a million…

Agree that at best the majority of the updates these days are nice to have, if that.

But I’ll buy every other new “Pro” phone if it takes noticeably better photos, regardless of everything else.

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