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Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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Post by PopePompus »

consultSKI wrote: post #874
PopePompus wrote: post #561

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Politicians who refuse to retire is a huge, bipartisan problem in the US affecting both genders. Putting an age limit on the president or members of congress would probably have to be done via a constitutional amendment, because the Supreme Court has ruled in the past that states cannot add eligibility requirements that are not in the constitution. One reform that would help in Congress would be to modify the seniori…

Term Limits. No real math is required. Senate: 1 Term. 6 years. Not able to then serve in the House. House: 2 Terms. 4 years. Not able to then serve in the Senate. 1 Term House + 1 Term Senate. 8 years total. Elect any LEGAL Citizen regardless of age.

The problem is, that's been tried and SCOTUS ruled it unconstitutional in U.S. Term Limits, Inc. v. Thornton ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Term_Limits,_Inc._v._Thor... ), so a constitutional amendment would be needed. Good luck with that.

Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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Post by QuarterReptile »

cheema33 wrote: post #481
dheera wrote: post #460

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No. The staunch Republicans will still vote for Trump and the only way to beat that is for there to be an incredibly cohesive force among a population that isn't very cohesive in the first place. The Republicans actually have it easy, they align and bond on lots of things. The center and left align on very few things and fight amongst themselves. A mixed ticket isn't going to align them better.

> The Republicans actually have it easy, they align and bond on lots of things. I have seen some videos of Trump voters who are claiming that JD Vance is a traitor to the white race for marrying a non-white. And their kids have non-white names. They are quite upset about this. Some of them are so disgusted by this that they might not vote at all. One can only hope.

Trump's political machine pouring money into primaries to oppose dissenting Republicans is a great corroboration of how little cohesion is in the Republican party. It's not happenstance that the first ever removal of a speaker of the House was a Republican and was last year. Unfortunately, fighting a battle to unify tends to result in more battles...

Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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Post by cman1444 »

wayeq wrote: post #697
burtonator wrote: post #177

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He got us out of Afghanistan too... this was a huge win and was very risky. Doesn't get enough credit for this one. Agreed on NATO + Ukraine too but I wish they would allow us to strike Russia directly even with NATO equipment.

> He got us out of Afghanistan too Yeah, it turns out all we needed to do was run away in the middle of the night and let the country slide back into a illiberal theocratic hell hole.

That's not the fault of the US though. We were there for years and years trying to foster democracy, but you can't help a country/culture that doesn't want to help itself.

Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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Post by Slava_Propanei »

gumby wrote: post #32

One of the most effective presidents since Johnson or Truman. But he did campaign on a single term. Let’s hope the Dem’s circular firing squad puts down its guns so they can quickly concentrate on winning the election with someone … probably Harris is the simplest answer.

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Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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Post by Log_out_ »

throw4847285 wrote: post #894
consultSKI wrote: post #874

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Term Limits. No real math is required. Senate: 1 Term. 6 years. Not able to then serve in the House. House: 2 Terms. 4 years. Not able to then serve in the Senate. 1 Term House + 1 Term Senate. 8 years total. Elect any LEGAL Citizen regardless of age.

Term limits are actually bad for democracy. The most effective politicians are the ones who have learned how to do it over time. There's this bizarre American idea that being an elected official shouldn't be a job. It definitely should. The problem here wouldn't even be solved by term limits, because Joe Biden has only been president for The actual, less fun solution, is for the party apparati to start elevating youn…

Democracy is not there to be effective. It was meant to be a sociopath shredder, a wannabe kings and nobles grinder. But they reached critical mass and defanged the tax system, the most important containement vessel.

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Post by barfingclouds »

HarHarVeryFunny wrote: post #318

Not going to happen, but I wonder how a mixed party ticket would do. Kamala (or whoever) + Mitt Romney as VP ? Has it ever been done? Would it work to attract the center/swing vote, or more likely to be a negative?

I’d be into that

Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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Post by barfingclouds »

th3byrdm4n wrote: post #922
rswail wrote: post #919

In his final 6 months, set up a plan for a Constitutional amendment that puts an upper age limit of 75 at the start of a term of office for Members of Congress, Senators, POTUS, VPOTUS, Executive appointments requiring Senate consent, Judges, with compulsory retirement at 75 for lifetime appointments.

I don't think a magic number is the right solution here.

I do. There’s an age minimum for presidents

Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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Post by rglover »

th3byrdm4n wrote: post #922
rswail wrote: post #919

In his final 6 months, set up a plan for a Constitutional amendment that puts an upper age limit of 75 at the start of a term of office for Members of Congress, Senators, POTUS, VPOTUS, Executive appointments requiring Senate consent, Judges, with compulsory retirement at 75 for lifetime appointments.

I don't think a magic number is the right solution here.

Presidents should be held to similar health and psychological requirements as astronauts. The role/responsibilities require the same level of performance.

Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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Post by rldjbpin »

camdenreslink wrote: post #910
rldjbpin wrote: post #855

i understand the significance of this news for majority of the users here, but unsure if it fits the guidelines of what should be discussed here. > If they'd cover it on TV news, it's probably off-topic.

I think there are exceptions allowed for major events (if only the keep all of the discussion in one place, preventing it from bleeding into the rest of the site).

don't want to harp on this but the discourse is not from the lens of how it will affect the industry, and there are other threads opened for the same.

i suppose that this is one of the said exceptions then.

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