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The pro-Israel information war

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Re: The pro-Israel information war

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Take that logic further. Israel's enemies outnumber it by 10x or more and are more than ruthless enough to sacrifice as many as necessary*. There's no way ever that Israel could avoid having the other side having more casualties. The same would apply to every minority. If your suggested law of war isn't 'majority or ruthless minority, get to do everything they want because they have more causalties', than you need an…

I don’t think the majority of people killed so far in this conflict have been enemies of Israel per se, in the same way that most (nearly all?) of the people who died on October 7 were not enemies of Palestine. Even in the most hardened, cynical, irredentist view this wouldn’t be true. “Collateral damage” is one of those bloodless wartime euphemisms for killing innocent men, women, and children. It’s a dirty, unavoid…

> I don’t think the majority of people killed so far in this conflict have been enemies of Israel per se

How do you know? hamas overstates death, has had ‘journalists’ with weapons, ‘children’ than are 15-16 year old fighters, lied about the hospital being destroyed, has videos of people crying over dolls, and MrFAFO, the Johnny Sins of Hamasniks.

Re: The pro-Israel information war

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Pro-Palestinian views outrank Pro-Israeli online by around 36 to 1 on TikTok and 8 to 1 on other online platforms. https://twitter.com/antgoldbloom/status/1721561226151612602 If anything the skew within the platforms is to prioritize pro-palestinian views https://twitter.com/committeeonccp/status/173279243496103143... It also seems like these platforms create (rather than support) anti-Israeli views: https://twitter.…

It is weird but this thread was not flagged but all of these were: - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38582486 - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38582471 - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38582239

The hn admins allegedly vetted that one.

Re: The pro-Israel information war

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post #967

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There's definitely a similarity, but no, modern US would not behave like modern Israel is behaving. Our response to the 2020 riots was extremely hands-off relative to the level of violence of the rioters (who, in one instance, took cobtrol by force of a section of a major US city, declared secession, and held the area for several days [0]). [0]: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitol_Hill_Occupied_Protes...

The Cap Hill protests in Seattle had nothing in common with October 7. The police just abandoned the east precinct after fighting with protesters for a few nights in a row. No one shot at them or took hostages. Certainly some rocks were thrown. And the police responded in force. Left wing and right wing people from places across the country that aren't Seattle make way more out of "CHOP" than it was.

> The police just abandoned the east precinct

Exactly.

Re: The pro-Israel information war

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I’m not holding them to a higher standard. Imagine if you will someone going to start large scale bombing NYC. Or London. Or Rome. The Hamas attack was unprecedented and horrific. I don’t know that it justifies declaring all out war on and entire city. I can say that without being anti-Semitic.

>Imagine if you will someone going to start large scale bombing NYC. Or London. Or Rome. The response to Sep 11, 2001?

Which has widely been condemned by people who criticise Israel? And tends not to be talked about too much by the (right wing) pro-Israeli government (settlement program, bombing of Palestinians) crowd.

Re: The pro-Israel information war

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> The videos of destruction and death in Gaza are far more horrific than corresponding videos in Israel Maybe you haven't seen enough of what happened in 10/7 then. I would rather get hit by a bomb then tortured to death in the most horrific way possible.

Even when dug out at some point, following a long and painful agony people crushed under collapsed buildings almost always die. Particularly in Gaza where medical supplies are now non-existent. Lots of innocents are dying; there is IMO absolutely no amount of reasoning that can justify it, under any circumstances. It's just wrong. It must stop, period.

> there is IMO absolutely no amount of reasoning that can justify it

Unfortunately, I don’t see any other way. But I would be very happy to know of any that will eradicate hamas, and let both sides’ civilians finally live in peace.

Re: The pro-Israel information war

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Very illuminating information - now reading this ABC article about what is happening on university campuses and the pressure that university presidents are under is seen in an entirely new light. https://abcnews.go.com/US/uproar-university-presidents-remar...

So now one day hence the new light is even brighter!!! Interesting that this 5th column can have so much power over so many U.S. institutions and be able to bring down university presidents.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/09/business/upenn-board-of-trust...

Doesn't seem coordinated to me...

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/stefanik-applauds-resignati...

Re: The pro-Israel information war

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Based on opinion polling and UN votes, most of the world is opposed to Israel's treatment of Palestinians, so the null hypothesis is that you would find far more pro-Palestinian voices represented on social media (not just the users, but also the unpaid and paid moderators).

We clearly see moderation policies being biased against pro-Palestinian points of view. All the "mistakes" moderators make are in the same direction.

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