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Re: iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus

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Post by Cymrukicks »

matwood wrote: post #959
fieldcny wrote: post #791

This is honestly the saddest thing I’ve read in years, maybe even decades. Tech is such an shitty abyss right now, ten years ago people got excited because of truly revolutionary features , like cameras that were better than $1000 digital cameras, 4G that made the internet not just usable but fast biometrics that actually worked, on a phone, in your pocket, like holy fuck that was mind blowing. We’ve gone so far down…

Most people don't update every year, and when you start looking at replacing a 2+ year phone the camera updates alone are usually well worth it. The Pro is adding 3d video capture for the upcoming vision pro. With that said, the smart phone of today is a solved problem. The industry has converged on a slab of glass form factor, and while it plays at the edges with foldable or flip phone styles they really aren't that…

You're exactly right, I think the watch form factor is where I see it going aswell. I can't understand why companies are throwing millions into developing a light weight Pipboy as the next big think. A phone is mostly a content consumer at this point. Sell me screen freedom with voice as the primary interface for the OS.

Re: iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus

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Post by jonfw »

kimburgess wrote: post #934
apatheticonion wrote: post #847

If the iPhone or iPhone Pro could be connected to a USB-C dock with a keyboard, mouse and external monitor (or two) and display full fat MacOS; It would be the most impressive mobile device ever created. I could imagine companies issuing iPhones with MDM and corporate credentials preconfigured. As a developer, that would be a pretty cool workflow. I already ssh into a remote box to get faster development performance…

You can already do that with an iPad (sans fat OS). If you're using Blink Shell ( https://blink.sh ) the external display is independent of what's on the iPad too, which works really neatly. This is the exact setup I used as my main dev machine in a previous role. Would be very nice to see if this works on the new iPhones. A thin client with decent security in your pocket with keyboard/mouse/display at both home and…

Blink shell is interesting but I need the same filesystem for my terminal, IDE, email, chat, and web browser to be effective.

That's the real trouble with the remote dev environment- invidual tools can work fine but nothing integrates as well as localhost

Re: iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus

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Post by alkibiades »

bythckr wrote: post #955

I don't get the logic of removing the mute toggle switch. It is very convenient to put the phone in silent. Didn't have to open the phone. Plus it was easy to check if the phone was silent by just looking for the orange marker. They should have first turned the volume buttons to action button. I dont use the volume button.

i’ve never taken my phone off mute except by accident

Re: iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus

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Post by ectospheno »

mtillman wrote: post #303

Apple, I don’t want a giant phone that I have to carry in my hands. Make another mini version that costs less than $2k and you can have my money. I already have an iPad or several laptops that I can do “big” things on.

Age will change your eyes in ways that may cause you to prefer larger screens. I do agree mini options should exist for those still blessed with youth.

Re: iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus

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Post by brotherhoodZero »

Arbortheus wrote: post #585
brotherhoodZero wrote: post #269

I may be an odd on out here, but I'm not a fan of the move to USB-C. I don't care about data speeds or charging speeds. I don't even care about durability of the cable as they can be replaced. I care about durability of the charging port on the device and every USB-C device I've ever owned has become "loose" over time. This includes my iPad Mini, so I don't believe Apples has found a solution to this. Meanwhile, I ma…

Did you ever try scraping the bottom of the USB-C port with a bobby pin? I find over time pocket lint gets squished at the back of the port and stops the cable fitting in as snug. For some reason it seems to be more of a problem with USB-C ports than lightning ports.

I’m pretty sure it’s not pocket lint in my case. The loosening happens even on laptops and tablets. The problem is the male part of the connector is inside the device. And it’s quite thin compared to lightning. You move the device around while it’s plugged in and it puts strain on that thin male part of the connector. Next thing you know, the cable visibly can wiggle up and down when plugged in.

Re: iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus

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Post by intrasight »

knallfrosch wrote: post #922
8f2ab37a-ed6c wrote: post #393

Is anybody else somewhat underwhelmed by the innovation here? Faster CPU, different colors, new case, better camera, better battery, thinner bezels etc. Same thing we see every.. single.. year.. I'm glad they're taking risks with the Vision Pro, but it feels like the phone has become a highly conservative platform. Maybe this is just the reality of having a product that sells as many units as the iPhone does every si…

Phones generally are "done." There's no more unidentified use case. Calling, texting, music, camera, internet - those had been around since before the smartphones. "New", as in the last 20 years, are location-based apps (Tinder, Uber), video, and payments (NFC or biometrics + online) There are other phone vendors, but their innovation within the last 5 years also peaks at "higher screen refresh rate" or "in-screen fi…

That phones are "done" has come to be my belief as well. And I think that's a good thing. We'll have small improvements in performance and battery life and cameras - and that's all that I expect at this point. That could change if new sensors are added - artificial nose? spectrometer?

Where new innovation will occur is with watches and VR headsets.

Re: iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus

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Post by dd_xplore »

bambax wrote: post #151

> USB-C is going to mean I can get rid of all these lightning cables Bought a Motorola G6 in 2018 for €199. It takes "fantastic" photos, and came in a "stunning new" (!?) color of black(ish). It's pretty much indestructible, runs Firefox with uBlock Origin, and it's "better for the environment" because every year you don't buy a new phone, the environment is happy. It also has USB-C, and a 3.5 jack.

60Hz display on a premium phone in 2023 is a crime

Re: iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus

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Post by fnord77 »

fieldcny wrote: post #791

This is honestly the saddest thing I’ve read in years, maybe even decades. Tech is such an shitty abyss right now, ten years ago people got excited because of truly revolutionary features , like cameras that were better than $1000 digital cameras, 4G that made the internet not just usable but fast biometrics that actually worked, on a phone, in your pocket, like holy fuck that was mind blowing. We’ve gone so far down…

> like cameras that were better than $1000 digital cameras

there's never been a phone camera better than a DSLR/ILC

today's phone cameras are not better than 10 year old DSLRs

7.5 x 5.7mm sensor vs 24mm x 36mm

Re: iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus

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Post by fnord77 »

faeriechangling wrote: post #633
nowooski wrote: post #342

It's pretty wild that Apple has held prices down the last few years in the face of elevated inflation. I decided to calculate the inflation-adjusted price of every iPhone ever, and the 15 line are some of the most affordable (in 2023 dollars). Full table and charts are here: https://www.perfectrec.com/posts/iPhone15-price But the take aways are: - iPhone 15 is cheapest base model since the OG iPhone in 2007 - 15 Plus…

The iPhone is improving less and less generationally and faces stiff competition. Regarding the regular iPhone, I haven't seen Apple be this far back in display tech in such an expensive product since 2017 when the MacBook Air was still using a 1440x900 display. The pricing of the 15 pro is pretty remarkable to me considering apple is paying for titanium and 3nm silicon this time around. It's also interesting how App…

> apple is paying for titanium

only the outer trim is titanium, the frame is still aluminum

Re: iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus

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Post by moogly »

Keirmot wrote: post #817
fieldcny wrote: post #791

This is honestly the saddest thing I’ve read in years, maybe even decades. Tech is such an shitty abyss right now, ten years ago people got excited because of truly revolutionary features , like cameras that were better than $1000 digital cameras, 4G that made the internet not just usable but fast biometrics that actually worked, on a phone, in your pocket, like holy fuck that was mind blowing. We’ve gone so far down…

I fail to understand your point. What kind of feature do you to be excited to see in a product that is 16 years old? Do you think the and thing when you buy a new dishwasher, a couch, a chair? That it’s mediocre? Smartphones are not the future anymore, there’s people starting university soon that always had one, and never lived in a world without the iPhone. Also, besides arguably the first few iPhones, Apple never d…

> What kind of feature do you to be excited to see in a product that is 16 years old?

Certainly one that other phone manufacturers have had in their phones for the past 8 years? I jest, because I haven't cared that my phones have had USB-C for even longer than that because I've been wireless charging instead. I do believe iPhones do that these days though.

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