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Re: Reddit is removing moderators that protest by taking their communities private

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Post by terribleperson »

marginalia_nu wrote: post #594
amadeuspagel wrote: post #591

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Yes of course. And that tiny minority of course shares your preferences about UI design.

That minority makes the different demands on UI, since they use the site in a different way from the passive users. Case in point, if you're rarely ever contributing it doesn't really even matter if the entire website crashes when you paste into the rich text editor so you lose everything you've written. Which I guess is why this bug is still not properly fixed on all browsers after being broken as hell for 4 years,…

Wait, is that why that awful editor locks up on me? Pasting? I always just give up on using it after it locks up and hadn't done it enough times to make the connection.

Re: Reddit is removing moderators that protest by taking their communities private

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Post by DropInIn »

paulmd wrote: post #923
KerrAvon wrote: post #271

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If I were on the board, I’d be engaged in discussion with my fellow board members right now about whether spez is demonstrating the temperament befitting a good CEO. Even if you think the shit coming out of his mouth to be the right attitude, you have to ask why he’s saying it out loud, abrasively, in public, where it’s only going to make the product less attractive.

how do you think the board (any board) feels about a mod clique that is willing to turn a 2-day blackout into an indefinite closure, possibly followed by indefinite "touch grass tuesdays" or other disruptions to business operations? you're imagining that the board just sees this disruption and wants it over as quickly as possible, but why do you think they would take that view and not want to solve the disruptions in…

Shareholders need to accept that either:

the mods and community have power and control over operations

Or

Mods get PAID

Really.... Volunteers have a reasonable expectation of influence on how their work is used.

Re: Reddit is removing moderators that protest by taking their communities private

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Post by Dah00n »

coffeebeqn wrote: post #870
Dah00n wrote: post #753

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I find these political theory arguments odd. Reddit is a corporation owned by a few wealthy VCs. There is nothing democratic or communistic or totalitarian about it

Yes, I agree, but I think you missed what I replied to, namely that the system would “be more democratic”.

Re: Reddit is removing moderators that protest by taking their communities private

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Post by Dah00n »

bb611 wrote: post #775
Dah00n wrote: post #746

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There's a first time for everything. I agree with spez. That is a very on point description of Mods, and it needs to be fixed. Just because you came first to /r/news doesn't mean you should rule like a king on Reddit. It is too open for abuse and politics.

Your argument belies reality, where moderators even on the very large subreddits turn over all of the time. The oldest moderator on r/news has only been in their position for slightly more than 3 years: https://www.reddit.com/r/news/about/moderators

No, it really doesn't. Both what I wrote and what you wrote can be correct. A moderator on a single big sub can, for example, turn it in a red or blue political direction no matter if s/he is a mod for a week or a year. As Reddit is a Corporation we will never see a democratic style mod selection, but in my opinion it is one of the big changes Reddit needs.

Re: Reddit is removing moderators that protest by taking their communities private

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Post by hiepph »

cryptoegorophy wrote: post #152
spazx wrote: post #109

Smelled this one coming miles away. Next, they'll hand over fan-built communities to the entities that own the IPs they're dedicated to. Eg. r/starwars to Disney, r/startrek to Viacom/Paramount, etc. Then, old.reddit.com will stop working spontaneously, just like how they toyed with killing mobile browser access to force users to download the app, which they probably will eventually. That's going to be the final push…

Any good alternative? I like hacker news for now that it still got some comments worth reading and interesting articles

Lemmy! I've been checking it out lately and people are moving popular subreddits to Lemmy's servers. It's a bit confusing at first but once you get it, it works like email. And it's... fantastic!

But I'll wait for this protest to die down to see its "real" value. Most of the posts now are about the protest and migration from Reddit. Things are on fire now.

Re: Reddit is removing moderators that protest by taking their communities private

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Post by phire »

iaw wrote: post #958
phire wrote: post #904

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> Huffman et al. were at the right place and right time with a LAMP(?) stack when Digg imploded. That's incorrect revisionist history. Reddit was a large part of the cause for Digg to implode. users had been flooding from Digg to reddit for years before Digg finally imploded. There was an entire series of "digg vs reddit" comics. Both sites launched within a year of each-other. Digg always had the prettier website, w…

I'd argue we have different perspectives on the matter and wont undermine yours. My thoughts are that Digg sealed its fate with Digg 2.0 (or whatever major redesign they had) that made the site unusable and degraded content quality. I think the lesson Huffman is missing is that quality content from your 2% contributors makes the site worth visiting.

While I was one of the many users who migrated from Digg to reddit in 2007-2009, I'm mostly basing my assertions off the perspective of the Digg engineer who launched Digg v4, and the article they wrote [1] on the topic.

From this inside perspective, it's very clear that Digg was already dying long before the launch of Digg v4; They explictly state that Digg v4 was pushed out the door early, as a gamble, because they only had so much runway before the remaining VC cash ran out.

They knew it was a disaster and decided to launch it anyway.

I'll admit, that from the perspective of the average Digg user in 2010 it would seem like Digg was perfectly healthy, then suddenly shat the bed by pushing out digg v4. But really, the digg v4 launch only served to communicate to the users that the site was dying.

[1] https://lethain.com/digg-v4/

Re: Reddit is removing moderators that protest by taking their communities private

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Post by ryanbrunner »

bottlepalm wrote: post #968
ryanbrunner wrote: post #926

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Given the number of blacked out subs that link to a Discord, it seems like an alternative is already there. For sure it's not exactly the same, but it seems to serve a similar purpose for a lot of users.

Yea Discord is not an alterative.

In practice it's serving as one though. For sure it's not a 1-1 replacement, but alternatives often aren't. Reddit doesn't work exacctly the same as Digg, and neither work like a PHPBB forum.

Re: Reddit is removing moderators that protest by taking their communities private

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Post by anticensor »

MaxikCZ wrote: post #671
mrweasel wrote: post #324

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Someone has to be using the redesign, most I'd guess, but I don't understand how. It's one thing that I don't like the look and feel, that's pretty subjective to a point, but the problem is that it doesn't actually work. Something as basic as reading comments is still broken, after all these years. You can not navigate the comment section. Seems like a pretty big oversight, unless you betting the farm on doom-scrolli…

Most people dont even know about old.reddit. new users never hear of it, most of old users got served the redesign and just went with it. I bet only minority knows and actively uses old.reddit. its insane

Why do many hate "new" Reddit in the first place?

Re: Reddit is removing moderators that protest by taking their communities private

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Post by anticensor »

Varqu wrote: post #604
spazx wrote: post #109

Smelled this one coming miles away. Next, they'll hand over fan-built communities to the entities that own the IPs they're dedicated to. Eg. r/starwars to Disney, r/startrek to Viacom/Paramount, etc. Then, old.reddit.com will stop working spontaneously, just like how they toyed with killing mobile browser access to force users to download the app, which they probably will eventually. That's going to be the final push…

This CEO should be removed, not the moderators.

That would require Reddit to voluntarily go out of business, and most companies do not do that.
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