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Re: OnlyFans to block sexually explicit videos starting in October

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Big Porn like onlyfans and pornhub are not being targetted by cc companies because of fraud rates, but because of the weird Christian fundamentalist lobby in America.

What year do you think this is?

https://www.thedailybeast.com/inside-exodus-cry-the-shady-ev...

2021

Re: OnlyFans to block sexually explicit videos starting in October

#972

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Big Porn like onlyfans and pornhub are not being targetted by cc companies because of fraud rates, but because of the weird Christian fundamentalist lobby in America.

Pornhub's live cam service was a white label of the company I worked at. I can tell you pretty definitively that you are wrong.

Are you seriously suggesting that pornhubs payment processing was not cut off because of the series of NYT hit pieces organized by Exodus Cry?

From NYT: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/10/business/visa-mastercard-...

> Mastercard and Visa said they had prohibited the use of their cards on the adult website Pornhub, after the New York Times columnist Nicholas Kristof reported that the platform included videos of child abuse and rape

BTW it’s silly of you to try to pretend to be some sort of industry expert and then immediately admit that you have never worked with porn payment processing. Everyone knows that the fraud rates for porn are very high, that’s not new.

Re: OnlyFans to block sexually explicit videos starting in October

#973

Wow, you spend years thinking crypto is convoluted nonsense…and then something comes along that impacts a lot of your friends, and you start to change your mind. I have a fair number† of friends and acquaintances who have OnlyFans. Some for side income, some for a substantial portion of their livelihood. And to see that get taken away because the payment processors want them to fall in line…I guess I’m on the crypto…

The fact that OnlyFans isn't even trying to move to crypto to keep their business alive is a stunning indictment of the state of crypto as a viable payment method.

There simply aren't enough consumers with crypto to spend yet.

The percentage of consumers with crypto is maybe 1%. The percentage with credit cards is maybe 90%. If OnlyFans moves to crypto, they cut their addressable market by 98%.

Re: OnlyFans to block sexually explicit videos starting in October

#974

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It’s a recent push toward more mainstream performers. For example, there are pro surfers who are popular youtube vloggers (e.g. Nathan Florence) who recently started onlyfans channels. Nathan’s is a fitness training channel. It threw a lot of people off guard. And I strongly suspect that onlyfans paid him to start this channel. https://onlyfans.com/nathanflorence https://dailycaller.com/2021/06/17/onlyfans-pivot-porn…

This is pretty stupid though, to throw away the business you have for the business you might have, there is heaps of porn on Twitter, looking at it is optional. Why can't it just co-exist with other "acceptable" content ? I would imagine it's very trivial to have a "Show me explicit content" setting. Edit: Side note, I don’t know why porn is so shameful, especially concerning adults posting high quality content, it’s…

Late to the game here, but...

OnlyFans is doing this allegedly because of a push by their payment processors and their investors.

I used to work for a company that did payment processing for high-risk sites (pornography and gambling), and before that I worked for a company that ran high-risk sites (pornography and gambling).

Those types of sites are high-risk because of a relatively large risk of fraud and chargebacks. Fraud and chargebacks are both bad things that cost both merchants and payment processors a lot of time and money, and they want to eliminate as much as possible.

This is why it's not as simple as a "Show me explicit content" setting - it's not about people seeing porn if they don't want to, it's about the banks not wanting to deal with the trouble that adult-focused sites tend to bring.

Re: OnlyFans to block sexually explicit videos starting in October

#975

This is going to be corporate suicide on a greater scale than Tumblr's policy. I say greater because OnlyFans is/was still on a massive upswing whereas Tumblr was 10 years past its peak already when the nails went in the coffin. Edit: I understand this is supposedly not their choice.

I honestly did not know they did anything besides porn. They have a really bad marketing department as I bet most people only know of them via porn (or I run in a slightly more degenerate circle).

There’s non-porn content on PornHub too, but much like OnlyFans that’s a neat trivia fact and statistically meaningless to their bottom line.

Re: OnlyFans to block sexually explicit videos starting in October

#976

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It’s a recent push toward more mainstream performers. For example, there are pro surfers who are popular youtube vloggers (e.g. Nathan Florence) who recently started onlyfans channels. Nathan’s is a fitness training channel. It threw a lot of people off guard. And I strongly suspect that onlyfans paid him to start this channel. https://onlyfans.com/nathanflorence https://dailycaller.com/2021/06/17/onlyfans-pivot-porn…

This is pretty stupid though, to throw away the business you have for the business you might have, there is heaps of porn on Twitter, looking at it is optional. Why can't it just co-exist with other "acceptable" content ? I would imagine it's very trivial to have a "Show me explicit content" setting. Edit: Side note, I don’t know why porn is so shameful, especially concerning adults posting high quality content, it’s…

Also, the overwhelming majority of adults consume pornography. To pretend otherwise at this point is a ludicrous farce.

Re: OnlyFans to block sexually explicit videos starting in October

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mounting pressure from banking partners and payment providers HN is often sceptical about use cases for crypto beyond speculation. This looks like one.

What is stopping MasterCard and Visa from banning Coinbase and others if this happens

We don't need them.

Re: OnlyFans to block sexually explicit videos starting in October

#978

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Reminds me of all the politicians who were anti-LGBT until one of their kids came out and then they miraculously flip flop.

It works I’m reverse as well. The owner of a socialist magazine just recently fired most of his staff for trying to unionize. He wrote a bunch of articles purporting to support all these ideals but the moment those ideals threatened his power he shut it down.

> It works in reverse as well

What does this mean? Its an example of a business in addition to politicians, how is that the reverse?

Re: OnlyFans to block sexually explicit videos starting in October

#979

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Not necessarily. Discord is a pretty popular platform for exclusive access to selected people, e.g. Patreon supporters. As long as OF allows this kind of link it might stay relevant.

Except they have the reputation of porn, but now they don't have the porn. I wouldn't go sign up for an OnlyFans account in order to follow a SFW creator, simply because the reputation OnlyFans has. However I would join their Discord or Patreon. Now their in this weird uncanny valley of "adult content" combined with "no adult content". Seems hard to shake that image.

Not to mention being associated with extremely bad business decision of dumping 30-50% your customers in one swoop

Re: OnlyFans to block sexually explicit videos starting in October

#980

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That's my question, too - I thought OnlyFans was a hosting platform for personal porn sites; I remember there was a big uproar a few months back when some TikTok influencer joined the site and started posting non-adult content. People were upset that they were diluting a site that's specifically for adult content.

Not quite accurate. Bella Thorne joined Onlyfans and promised "no clothes naked" content in exchange for her $200 subscription fee. She made millions of dollars but then only sent clothed and obscured pictures to her subscribers. After thousands of people demanded refunds, Onlyfans changed their policies to heavily limit how much subscribers could be charged for content, how much they could pay, and increased the cre…

lol dang, didn't know she duped that many thirsty fans so badly.
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