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Re: Facebook account now required to login to Oculus devices

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Post by vmception »

KaiserPro wrote: post #825
vmception wrote: post #78

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When you make a facebook account disconnected from a social graph (new email, or unused phone number) facebook shuts down the account. Their position is clear. They’re fucking creeps masquerading any user experience they create as anti-spam.

yeah thats not actually true. My mum has a shadow facebook account for a number of reasons. She only has one friend, its on a shadow email. It's still active after a good 6 months. it didn't require a phone number either. I mean it asked, but I didn't give it one. So long as the emails dont bounce, you're good.

just because she got on the left side of the A/B test doesn't invalidate our experiences

Re: Facebook account now required to login to Oculus devices

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Post by ksrm »

xg15 wrote: post #386

This is something that still completely baffles me about the "IoT"/"smart devices"/"connected devices"/"whatever you want to call it" space. If someone advertised a device as capable of doing X without it in fact being able to do X, they'd be liable for false advertising. If someone sold you a device, then took it back or destroyed it, they'd be liable for theft or destruction of property. Nevertheless, if someone se…

Sounds like something the EU will look at in the future if they aren't already.

Re: Facebook account now required to login to Oculus devices

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Post by ccktlmazeltov »

apazzolini wrote: post #464
ccktlmazeltov wrote: post #406

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I'm tired of reading these type of comments. Do you enjoy VR? Just create a facebook account, that's not a big deal. There's nothing evil there, people are just grasping for straws.

I deleted my FB account over 5 years ago. A few years after that, I tried creating a new one to sell something on Marketplace, and they closed my account, saying I needed to provide a driver's license due to fraud. I'm not giving FB my driver's license to sell something online, and I'm certainly not going to do it to play a video game in VR.

don't you do that on other platforms like ebay and amazon?

Re: Facebook account now required to login to Oculus devices

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Post by ccktlmazeltov »

jayd16 wrote: post #461
ccktlmazeltov wrote: post #401

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and did nothing, Oculus didn't just need money, but a competent team behind it.

This isn't correct. There were/are a lot of inside out VR headsets. Oculus just happens to have a brand, a solid marketing presence, a solid product, the appearance of longevity etc. Facebook might have helped but from a purely technical perspective, Facebook wasn't the only path.

sorry but no, what Oculus has is a team of strong engineers

Re: Facebook account now required to login to Oculus devices

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Post by ccktlmazeltov »

geoelectric wrote: post #460
ccktlmazeltov wrote: post #399

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That's one side of the story, the Quest wouldn't exist without Facebook

Sure, it'd be called something different and would be made by someone else. It's not like FB started Oculus from scratch. Worst case it would've just taken a little longer while some other player with the capital got around to being interested. The use case drove the tech, not the company, and so far the tech is being used for exactly what it was used for before FB bought it (just better as computers, motion sensors,…

> Sure, it'd be called something different and would be made by someone else

interestingly you can say that about pretty much anything, but at some point someone need to work on it for "it" to happen.

Re: Facebook account now required to login to Oculus devices

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Post by ccktlmazeltov »

cortesoft wrote: post #587
TT3351 wrote: post #478

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Actually you can't, because Facebook will lock your account for inauthentic behavior. Try making a fake account, and see how long you can hold on to it without being extorted for personal, identifiable information.

I set up a fake Facebook profile 10 years ago, because I needed a profile with no friends that I could use for testing some stuff at work. It is still alive and kicking; Facebook keeps sending it emails suggesting friends.

same, I have a fake account and no issue with it

Re: Facebook account now required to login to Oculus devices

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Post by makecheck »

I’m not sure how we’ve learned to accept “I am altering the deal” from tech companies just because they have the ability to change things remotely.

I mean, what if a furniture company just decided to break into your house, reupholster your couch and remove some of the pillows? (Or I suppose, install a recording device on the bottom?)

Re: Facebook account now required to login to Oculus devices

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Post by shureluck »

fizzled wrote: post #659
xg15 wrote: post #386

This is something that still completely baffles me about the "IoT"/"smart devices"/"connected devices"/"whatever you want to call it" space. If someone advertised a device as capable of doing X without it in fact being able to do X, they'd be liable for false advertising. If someone sold you a device, then took it back or destroyed it, they'd be liable for theft or destruction of property. Nevertheless, if someone se…

Rights are something you need to constantly fight for, otherwise they absolutely will go away. Portland isn't just bored, they're ahead of the curve.

All I see is a bunch of people whining and attacking cops. Ahead of the curve, you say?

Re: Facebook account now required to login to Oculus devices

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Post by sixdimensional »

entropicdrifter wrote: post #963
sixdimensional wrote: post #915

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I want to agree with you, really.. but the realistic person in me says that it is likely that if you don’t keep the data, someone else will find a way, because getting the data seems to be irresistible as a form of control and advantage. So maybe not playing doesn’t really work. I was thinking, in regards to some grandparent way up there, the same statement “don’t play” might have been true for Oculus in general. Wha…

I agree that this is a major issue and the macroeconomic forces at play here are forcing many peoples' hands. That said, maybe you should google the phrase "The only winning move is not to play". It's a movie quote ;-)

How could I have forgotten. An excellent reference, well done :)

Shall we play a game?

Re: Facebook account now required to login to Oculus devices

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Post by apazzolini »

ccktlmazeltov wrote: post #973
apazzolini wrote: post #464

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I deleted my FB account over 5 years ago. A few years after that, I tried creating a new one to sell something on Marketplace, and they closed my account, saying I needed to provide a driver's license due to fraud. I'm not giving FB my driver's license to sell something online, and I'm certainly not going to do it to play a video game in VR.

don't you do that on other platforms like ebay and amazon?

You give your diver's license to Amazon?
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