Apple just kicked Fortnite off the App Store

Post by [deleted] » Fri, Aug 14, 2020, 6:09 PM UTC

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You could argue about Apple's rights, or citizens' free speech rights, or consumer rights, under existing law. It would be an interesting discussion because I think it's a lot more complicated an issue that most people appreciate. But really why not talk about how we think things should work on platforms like iOS? What should the law be? What protects essential human rights, encourages creativity, and allows business…

> Personally, I would argue that consumers should have a legal right to install whatever software they wish on a product they have purchased, including onto the bundled operating system I fundamentally disagree and this is also a misrepresentation of the current situation. If I buy an open operating system which advertises that I can run on it what pleases me then I should have the right to carry out this freedom of…

Post by 8note » Fri, Aug 14, 2020, 7:27 PM UTC

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> they do a lot to curtail scummy developer practices. Which is excellent. Apple taking a cut for apps I have no problem with. They have support, I trust them with privacy/security and so on. That costs money. The interesting discussion is how much apple can claim to own a part of profits made in the apps, by selling content (in-app purchases). On one hand: if a game is free for a trial, and you can unlock the full g…

> if I buy a recipe app for $10 and then recipes for $1 a piece which I could also buy on the corresponding website, then I don't think apple should have a cut at all. Ah that sounds like a fair point at first, but it could be argued that you gained access to those sales because of Apple. More importantly, they're processing payments for you, and every payment processor out there takes a cut, one way or the other.

Post by graeme » Fri, Aug 14, 2020, 7:42 PM UTC

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> they do a lot to curtail scummy developer practices. Which is excellent. Apple taking a cut for apps I have no problem with. They have support, I trust them with privacy/security and so on. That costs money. The interesting discussion is how much apple can claim to own a part of profits made in the apps, by selling content (in-app purchases). On one hand: if a game is free for a trial, and you can unlock the full g…

On one hand, I get where you're coming from. On the other hand, if they offer a recipe app for free (because it contains no recipes, and let's face it, that's how you get quick user interest), then purchase recipes for $1.x each to cover the amortised app creation cost, you're basically just sidestepping the app store cut by any other name.

Post by m11a » Fri, Aug 14, 2020, 7:49 PM UTC

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A PR stunt from Epic and everyone's falling for it.

Everyone fell for the Hey! stunt too what do you expect?

Post by Waterfall » Fri, Aug 14, 2020, 8:45 PM UTC

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In their profit reports I am told that the 30% is not profit it just maintains the app store. I read that from some jailbreakers, they seemed legit since it was talking about how apple locks it down too much. It was in the earnings report, so they didn't have a reason to lie (I think). I wonder if they cook the numbers or something to lie about it.

According to the article [1] - App store made 11.5 Billion $ revenue in 2017. That's like 30 million dollars per day. I'm not even going to argue that you need such money to maintain a static binary distribution platform. [1] https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckjones/2018/01/06/apples-ap...