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Post by sytelus »

bryanmgreen wrote: post #682
Animats wrote: post #79

Twitter policy: "We start from a position of assuming that people do not intend to violate our Rules. Unless a violation is so egregious that we must immediately suspend an account, we first try to educate people about our Rules and give them a chance to correct their behavior. We show the violator the offending Tweet(s), explain which Rule was broken, and require them to remove the content before they can Tweet agai…

Better leveraging Twitter's reporting feature is probably the most neutral way to solve this. When a tweet is deemed response-worthy, they should post the report numbers. Value in numbers shields them in many ways and could legitimize their actions as a neutral party. Then, if they miss something, they can simply say there weren't enough reports. This will then empower the feature in the future. I suggest this as act…

This doesn’t work for political tweets. Look at replies to even Trumps benign tweets and you will see 50% of the population would hate other guy no matter what they tweet. Every single tweet of Joe Biden and Trump will get flagged no matter what they were tweeting.

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Post by sieabahlpark »

azalemeth wrote: post #921
rco8786 wrote: post #897

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Every day 100k tweets are sent When I worked there we handled about ~6k tweets/sec all day every day. (~500,000,000 tweets/day)

What database did you use?

Probably hbase or some derivative of it.

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Post by sytelus »

tripzilch wrote: post #969
75dvtwin wrote: post #948

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Useful to know that this specific selective application of editorial bias by Twitter, was after Trump's executive order [1] on preventing online censorship of free speech. >"... Twitter now selectively decides to place a warning label on certain tweets in a manner that clearly reflects political bias. As has been reported, Twitter seems never to have placed such a label on another politician’s tweet. .." When a car m…

How is this "political bias"? Is everything that disagrees with Trump now "political bias"? I'm not even from the US and I know what "when the looting starts, the shooting starts" means and what outcome it envisions. > When twitter manufactures opinions and hides them as 'public forum discourse' -- we are supposed to be ok with that? What are these opinions? Can you speak them out loud? Which opinions are being hidde…

You cannot not have bias when you are talking politics. For Tweeter’s case, one would need to look at statistics for how many tweets from each sides are getting flagged. If one side is getting all the flake then it means that side is evil and other side is holy. In politics, this is not possible over long term if democracy is in full effect.

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Post by gabordemooij »

khaledtaha wrote: post #919
gabordemooij wrote: post #903

I don't see the problem, just reject the special privs for twitter and treat it like a publisher. It should be fairly simple, either you do not moderate at all (and your not responsible for whatever people say on your platform) or you moderate and therefore you publish. It aint that hard. Twitter clearly moderates, that's fine, so it should be treated as a publisher, not as a public 'facility'. Simple.

Or perhaps we should take a step back and design a new set of rules that can allow Twitter and other companies to moderate without having to be responsible for the content. I feel like there’s a false dichotomy being portrayed here that’s unnecessary.

This kind of logic makes life hopelessly complex. It's a very simple rule that does not need 'special adjustments'. Just stick to the rules we agreed upon and face the facts. Twitter is now a publisher. You cannot bend the rules everytime you don't agree with them.

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Post by sytelus »

I’m now fully expecting republican mega donors coming together to trying to gain control of Tweeter as strategic asset. At $23B market cap it’s fairly easy target given there are already other major investors wanting to see Dorsey out. There already had been movement to buy off super cheap local radio stations and turn them in to conservative media at scale. Republican think tanks understands the immense value of building media channels and they have ton of money sloshing around. I can imagine Twitter with new CEO banning all tweets from Joe Biden because they are all deemed factually incorrect or misleading.

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Post by Aeolun »

trymas wrote: post #720
Aeolun wrote: post #93

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I think it's interesting how he's threatening China about HK on one hand, but on the other hand being a lot more literal and aggressive towards his own people.

IMHO, he's a closeted dictator and would really like to be in Xi's or Putin's shoes.

On the other hand, if he was indeed in their shoes he would have never made it and be deposed near instantly. The only place a Trump can thrive is in a democracy.

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Post by sytelus »

eximius wrote: post #892
scaredtobeme wrote: post #843

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The argument is that it's getting there. It's the leading platform for public debate in the US right now. Journalists spend their days refreshing their Twitter feed, so the effect isn't just in the size of Twitter's platform but its influence.

Twitter is a plague on public discourse. We'd be better off as a society if it were never invented. If I knew how to put the genie back in the bottle, I would advocate for it.

It’s absolutely not. I don’t follow anything political, neither Obama nor Trump. Among 1200+ people I follow are all from AI/ML/biotech/space research. Most of them are academics. I throughly enjoy my feed and it’s my go to place to stay up to date as well as some fun nerdy conversations. Tweeter is a hammer, use wisely.
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