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Microsoft Is Said to Have Agreed to Acquire GitHub

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Re: Microsoft Is Said to Have Agreed to Acquire GitHub

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Post by naiveai »

toyg wrote: post #374
naiveai wrote: post #266

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The whole world's demanding it. No one really knows how to do it efficiently, it seems.

It’s not just about efficiency, it’s about responsibility. I love decentralization when I can avoid dealing with BigCo, I hate it when I’m responsible for fighting spam, ensuring my services stay up, not getting hacked, and so on. All of these tasks are a requirement as soon as collaboration is in the picture.

You've got a point there. I'm just so sick of all this. The Internet's a great thing, but it just seems to be going downhill with corporate interests.

Re: Microsoft Is Said to Have Agreed to Acquire GitHub

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Post by greaseball »

blauditore wrote: post #961

I wonder what the reaction would have been with Apple being the acquirer. Microsoft still receives lots of hate, sometimes justified, but often just baseless. On the other hand, whenever Apple fucks devs (or users) over, they're just "protecting users" or "making business decisions". I feel there's a strong bias in the dev community.

Apple being the acquirer wouldn't change the potential conflicts of interest or the trend towards monopolization, which is what a lot of people are upset about. Animosity toward large corporations isn't unique to Microsoft.

Re: Microsoft Is Said to Have Agreed to Acquire GitHub

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Post by billfruit »

My fear in this is that MS may require MS passport or whatever it is called ID system to log in to GitHub, with their really unreasonable 16 character max password length restrictions.In general MS websites are poor in usability, and littered with marketing copy, difficult to find useful information.

Re: Microsoft Is Said to Have Agreed to Acquire GitHub

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Post by endorphone »

wHTL wrote: post #80
lkrubner wrote: post #17

I'm worried. Consider what happened to Skype. Consider what happened to LinkedIn. I worry something similar will happen to Github. And I love Github. At some point Microsoft told me I had to change my password for Skype. The "Reset your password" process failed 6 times in a row. I eventually had to create a new, Microsoft ID, to use Skype. I lost all of my old contacts and had to slowly recreate my address book. This…

"Consider what happened to LinkedIn" Where are you going with this? LinkedIn's growth has reaccelerated after the MSFT acquisition to the order of 35%. Only good things have happened at LinkedIn (I'm an employee) since the MSFT acquisition. If LinkedIn is not doing something, then it sure will consider doing it now, with the vast resources it has available to it now.

"LinkedIn's growth has reaccelerated after the MSFT acquisition to the order of 35%."

I honestly don't know a single professional who still updates or cares about LinkedIn. I have no doubt that it still has the momentum from late comers and straggers, but...eh.

Mind you, it was on the outs long before Microsoft bought it. Not its fault, but it just hit the no longer novel curve.

"with the vast resources it has available to it now"

This part is almost parody, and reeks of comical self delusion (or astroturfing). It is the rally cry of how so many of Microsoft's purchases faded to black.

Re: Microsoft Is Said to Have Agreed to Acquire GitHub

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Post by akerro »

013a wrote: post #259

This is a completely smart purchase on Microsoft's part. I can't imagine more synergy between two companies: - Microsoft has always been the largest developer advocate of any of the major tech players (Google has been a great contender for this position since 2010). - Microsoft has moved most of their open source projects to Github. - Microsoft is a major contributor to Git, including massive infrastructure projects…

> They've handled a few pretty well (Linkedin,

what? linkedin became garbage, it's worse facebook with more ads and stupid emails not related to anything I do.

Re: Microsoft Is Said to Have Agreed to Acquire GitHub

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Post by tekknik »

closeparen wrote: post #371
EnderMB wrote: post #117

I spent eight years building software on .NET, so I have a lot of time for Microsoft, but I fully understand why a lot of people aren't happy with this news. It's been good to have a leader in open-source that is unaffiliated with anyone but the tech they chose to use (Ruby/Rails). For me, it doesn't matter who takes it over - it's just sad to see a neutral player disappear. With all that said, things have changed a…

This dovetails nicely with Windows Subsystem for Linux, VS Code, and Microsoft’s ongoing play to capture the Silicon Valley hipster development ecosystem that Apple is alienating.

Linux subsystem for windows is garbage, it brings all the same issues with running a linux VM on windows with no more benefit than cygwin gave and who exactly is apple alienating? This sounds like opinion since apple profits are doing just fine and waking into any incubator will show you who the dominant player is. also windows is not even close to comparable to macos except that they’re both OSes

Re: Microsoft Is Said to Have Agreed to Acquire GitHub

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Post by detaro »

tekknik wrote: post #976
closeparen wrote: post #371

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This dovetails nicely with Windows Subsystem for Linux, VS Code, and Microsoft’s ongoing play to capture the Silicon Valley hipster development ecosystem that Apple is alienating.

Linux subsystem for windows is garbage, it brings all the same issues with running a linux VM on windows with no more benefit than cygwin gave and who exactly is apple alienating? This sounds like opinion since apple profits are doing just fine and waking into any incubator will show you who the dominant player is. also windows is not even close to comparable to macos except that they’re both OSes

> Linux subsystem for windows is garbage, it brings all the same issues with running a linux VM on windows with no more benefit than cygwin gave

> also windows is not even close to comparable to macos except that they’re both OSes

This sounds like opinions ;)

Re: Microsoft Is Said to Have Agreed to Acquire GitHub

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Post by bamboozled »

indigochill wrote: post #889
bamboozled wrote: post #535

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What makes you think the same thing won’t happen to GitLab? No one would’ve dreamed of this happening 5-10 years back.

I expect it'll happen to Gitlab at some point, but the beauty of self-hosted is that I can cut ties with the organization and continue using their software anyway because it's entirely running on my machine. Which, incidentally, is just one reason I usually strongly prefer self-hosted options over SaaS. You're not signing a pact to become beholden to the business whims of a third party.

Good luck hosting an unmaintined piece of software though, there is no guarantee it will just instantly have community backing.

Re: Microsoft Is Said to Have Agreed to Acquire GitHub

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Post by tootie »

dean177 wrote: post #906
tootie wrote: post #827

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GitHub has had more ethics fails in the past few years than MS.

Care to elaborate?

You don't remember when the co-founder had to step down over harassment issues? This was all over HN a few years ago. A female developer claimed she sexually harassed and discriminated against and the company then conspired to push her with the founders' wife (not an employee) leading the charge. That guy is a billionaire now.

https://www.wired.com/2014/04/tom-pw/

https://www.buzzfeed.com/carolineodonovan/an-executive-depar...

Re: Microsoft Is Said to Have Agreed to Acquire GitHub

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Post by aldanor »

blauditore wrote: post #961

I wonder what the reaction would have been with Apple being the acquirer. Microsoft still receives lots of hate, sometimes justified, but often just baseless. On the other hand, whenever Apple fucks devs (or users) over, they're just "protecting users" or "making business decisions". I feel there's a strong bias in the dev community.

I bet the reaction would have been largely the same; a megacorp monopoly is a megacorp monopoly.

That being said, Apple did make a few nice moves lately -- e.g., open-sourcing FoundationDB (when was the last time Microsoft opened up anything it acquired?).

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