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Re: iPhone 7

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Post by davidcollantes »

slg wrote: post #5

I still can't get over the headphone jack. Apple does have a good record of abandoning technologies at the right time (floppies, CDs, Flash, etc) but the biggest difference is that those technologies were all on the downward slope of their popularity when Apple made the move and all had solid replacements available at the time. The headphone jack is just as popular today as it has ever been and it is still more conve…

I don't have a problem with the removal if the headphone jack, as I never listening with the phone connected to power at the same time.

Why crappy lightning headphones? What makes them crappy?

Re: iPhone 7

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Post by j45 »

morganw wrote: post #595
j45 wrote: post #387

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does anyone know if aptX support has arrived in the iPhone for bluetooth devices? I have been increasingly using devices like the Sony SBH80, or SBH54 and they work seamlessly for the most part already between my phone and laptop. I don't think the headphone thing has been thought thru but their wireless jump to the W1 seems to be at least in part bluetooth 4.x based which itself is a far superior technology to even…

> aptX support ... iPhone Nope, but "iOS devices support the non-mandatory codec MPEG-2/4 AAC, as defined in Section 4.5 of the A2DP specification, Version 1.2.Accessories should use the AAC codec in addition to SBC, because it provides higher audio quality for a given bit rate. " source http://theheadphonelist.theheadphonelist.netdna-cdn.com/wp-c... via http://theheadphonelist.com/wireless-fidelity-making-sense-b...

Thanks for sharing

Re: iPhone 7

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Post by j45 »

yborg wrote: post #896
j45 wrote: post #387

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does anyone know if aptX support has arrived in the iPhone for bluetooth devices? I have been increasingly using devices like the Sony SBH80, or SBH54 and they work seamlessly for the most part already between my phone and laptop. I don't think the headphone thing has been thought thru but their wireless jump to the W1 seems to be at least in part bluetooth 4.x based which itself is a far superior technology to even…

Very good question. It's basically incomprehensible why Apple doesn't support the codec in iOS, especially since the other issue that replacing wired headphones with Bt is that the sound quality is inferior - even with aptX support. I'm very surprised that I have seen almost no mention of the fact that Apple didn't just remove an "outdated" interface and inconvenience their customers, they also simultaneously reduced…

I'm looking forward to learning about the W1 chip and what is different than existing technologies. If they've truly pushed things forward it would be great, instead of simply making sure to put all the highest available specs and capabilities in both device and headphones

Re: iPhone 7

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Post by freehunter »

madeofpalk wrote: post #787
nameless912 wrote: post #742

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Oh also, lighting port. For everything. Not USB3, lightning . FUCKYOUEXTERNALMONITORS . But in all seriousness, if they make the port count any lower, the MacBook Pro will cease to be a laptop. It will become an iPad without a touchscreen.

Except where the iPad Pro actually has _more_ ports than the Macbook (Lightning, 3.5mm, whatever-that-pro-keyboard-magnetic-port-contacts-thingy-is.

But the iPad Pro is a pro device. The Macbook isn't. They do have a Macbook pro device, it's call the Macbook Pro, and it has a (relative to Apple's other offerings) ton of ports. 2x USB3, 2x Thunderbolt, 3.5mm, SD card, and HDMI.

Re: iPhone 7

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Post by jedanbik »

coryfklein wrote: post #271
acomjean wrote: post #42

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I can't get over the headphone jack either. Another dongle to loose. Tons of headphones obsoleted. Can't charge while listening. Laggy audio. more batteries in the world. They're ok with a bulge for the camera but not headphones? I work in a lab and a phone with headphones is standard equipment on the commute and work (for at least part of the day). I would seriously move off iOS if I was making music with it. If onl…

> if I was making music with it Is iOS used as a platform in professional music making? Is that really a thing?

Yes. AudioBus is a major iOS music platform.

Check out the list of compatible apps on their website, companies like Ableton, Korg, Yamaha, and countless indie devs take this seriously, and really, we all should.

https://audiob.us/apps/

Re: iPhone 7

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Post by unprepare »

georgespencer wrote: post #428
slg wrote: post #5

I still can't get over the headphone jack. Apple does have a good record of abandoning technologies at the right time (floppies, CDs, Flash, etc) but the biggest difference is that those technologies were all on the downward slope of their popularity when Apple made the move and all had solid replacements available at the time. The headphone jack is just as popular today as it has ever been and it is still more conve…

> the biggest difference is that those technologies were all on the downward slope of their popularity when Apple made the move Were any of them? MacBook Air released in 2008. DVD media sales rose YOY 2005 => 2009. Flash video did not decrease in popularity pre-iPhone, it decreased because of the iPhone. > The headphone jack is just as popular today as it has ever been "DVDs are as popular today as they have ever bee…

>"DVDs are as popular today as they have ever been" - someone in 2008

What percentage of motor vehicles had a DVD player in 2008, vs what percentage of motor vehicles have an aux port today?

A car is not something you can just go out and upgrade. Try getting a dealership to install a factory bluetooth system in your 2010 chevy - let me know how it goes. Keep in mind Apple is decidedly against, on a cultural level, aftermarket customization, so some off the shelf, bestbuy radio head unit is not an acceptable apple-like solution.

>They've been explicitly designed to be as close to a universal solution as is possible.

Oh thats great news, then they must have covered these extremely common cases, right?

How about all my friends cars? Will i be able to play a song after my friend by virtue of this magical universal airpod system? (oh right, as long as i remember to carry my handy-dandy headphone dongle in my pocket at all times everywhere i go, ill be able to do what ive done for years without carrying anything!)

When i get into my car and bluetooth doesnt connect before i take it out of park, how will this system magically connect my phone so i can listen to music on my drive? (again, as long as ive got my trusty headphone dongle on me, all things are solved. It Just Works TM)

And those lightning headphones i just bought for my new iphone, how do i plug them into my mac, which doesnt have a lightning port? How about my PC? my android tablet? my ipod nano from years ago i use for working out? (yet another dongle of course! any true minimalist would swoon over the idea of having to keep track of several dongles with their mobile device - minimalism is apple design cue of choice afterall)

Besides all that, what is the latency on these airpods headphones? Movies are largely unwatchable over bluetooth because of the audio lag - has this been fixed? How about battery life? I use bluetooth headphones all day in my office, i generally connect them to my mac, because otherwise i end up with a dead phone battery near the end of the day - how does airpods resolve this issue?

Basically, what about this system is BETTER than what i currently have access to. To defend the removing of the headphone jack, surely you can come up with at least one feature that wasnt possible on phones with the headphone jack? I mean its not even any thinner....

Re: iPhone 7

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Post by protomyth »

PerfectElement wrote: post #858
protomyth wrote: post #235

They used the word "courage" during the keynote. I would say the actual words are "lock in" and "licensing fees". I would have been ok with USB-C because at least those will be able to move between machines. The adapter is useless for me since it doesn't allow power to be supplied so my long drives are now problematic. I guess I'll have to take that into account on buying the next car.

Or you can buy a better phone.

Probably, but I have to get over the lock-in cost which is not cheap.

Re: iPhone 7

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Post by unprepare »

rimantas wrote: post #365
tebruno99 wrote: post #183

I'm not even upset about the headphone jack. Whatever. I'm really upset because you won't be able to do the following: 1.) Audio+GPS+Charging in non-Bluetooth Car. 2.) Listening to music at desk and still have enough charge for the Audio+GPS for the drive home. 3.) No more listening to music/audiobooks as I fall asleep because in the morning the iPhone won't be charged for my desk usage the next day unless I wake up…

> Audio+GPS+Charging in non-Bluetooth Car. I can do this with iPhone 6 already. And could do with iPhone 5. In a 2013 model year car. There is an USB port in my car, connect lightning cable and thats it: phone is charging, music is playing.

yeah most cars with USB ports also have Bluetooth, so im not sure youre making a strong argument.

If you currently have a cigarette lighter charger and an aux port, how can you charge your phone and listen to music?

Re: iPhone 7

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Post by exodust »

I wish people would care for the environment more and keep their phones and devices for longer.

Even the packaging mostly ends up in landfill. There is something unhealthy about "shiny new toys" released every year that we must have according to the media's frenzy of Apple advertising.

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