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SpaceX says it has agreement to acquire Cursor for $60B

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Re: SpaceX says it has agreement to acquire Cursor for $60B

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I'm sworn off from Musk-related products, and this will prob make cursor worse (switch to X's LLM for instance). So, any suggestions for switching? Codex; Claude Code? (I like my IDE and I like the freedom to choose a model, which is why I stuck with Cursor even when it felt more expensive)

I switched to Windsurf recently and it's been pretty good for providing a Cursor-like experience; pricing is pretty similar.

Re: SpaceX says it has agreement to acquire Cursor for $60B

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Elon Musk, the richest person on the planet, with multiple industry-changing companies built under his leadership, clearly has no idea what he's doing.

Its hard to think clearly when you are in a k-hole. in ten the speed'll kick in, can of coke and a ciggy and he'll be right as rain

so now we're accusing him of being a habitual drug user? or is this some joke that's going over my head

Re: SpaceX says it has agreement to acquire Cursor for $60B

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I've been using Kilo Code (VS Code Plugin) for the last few days, and it does most of what I liked in Cursor without tying me to their particular subscription. That said, people are increasingly migrating to CLI tools (Claude Code if you like the Claude models, Pi Agent if you want something that's highly customizable, Crush if you want something fun), or GUI tools that are less code-first (Codex GUI).

What makes Crush fun?

It has a CLI component and a very flashy TUI application. The TUI has lots of effort put in to layouts, color, and really pushing the boundaries of what a TUI can be. It looks a bit “hacker in a 2000s movie” except with pink instead of green as the dominant color.

Totally not for everybody though. I can see why some people would hate it.

Re: SpaceX says it has agreement to acquire Cursor for $60B

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What's crazy is that a company that sells an IDE (that's not even a particularly good one compared to competitors like JetBrains) integrating some AI plugins could be worth more than $60B...

They are now a Codex clone and without the subscription pricing. You have to spend thousands to get what you get from a $200 Codex subscription. How do they compete with this except from users who haven't caught on yet, or businesses that are unbothered to spend thousands a month per dev and wouldn't consider just subscribing to 1-3 $200 subscriptions instead? And their price is so high because it's markup on API rat…

Whose pricing is above API rates? Not Cursor. It's 100% at each model provider's published API rate. With a bigger sub, you get it cheaper than that.

Cursor makes a ton of money because the product is great. It's easily the most sophisticated harness out there, and it isn't an IDE anymore. It's an agent dashboard since version 3.

Suffice it to say it's not all idiot money being thrown at them by users.

Re: SpaceX says it has agreement to acquire Cursor for $60B

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You're claiming that SpaceX has not received governmnent subsidies, grants, and contracts? > those services have saved the government billions of dollars compared to the alternative Source? All I can find is some guy saying it. And it doesn't really matter what they've saved. It doesn't excuse conflicts of interest.

A top government employee in the previous regime. Not some guy. You yourself can check and see that launch pricing for the government is cheaper from everyone apart from Boeing these days. Turns out capping costs help. (See SLS) (See Europa Clipper) Contracts aren't subsidies and you know that. It's straight up dishonesty to mix them up. McDonald's and Burger King are government contractors

I said "government subsidized" and then later expanded out to subsidies, grants, and contracts. You know what I meant. There isn't dishonesty remotely anywhere.

And the point of conflict of interest still stands and is unargued while we still argue the meaning of "government subsidized".

Re: SpaceX says it has agreement to acquire Cursor for $60B

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In terms of IDE yeah it is not that great. I do have Copilot in VSCode and Cursor. I thought both should be equal in solving problems - turns out Cursor with the same model selected somehow was able to solve tasks that Copilot would get stuck or run in loops. They have some tricks on managing file access that others don’t.

I actually now think ai prompt writing in the IDE is completely overkill nowadays. IDEs are made for just a human to interact with code. I think the paradigm of forcing these tools that weren’t built for this to do this, is us trying to fit a square peg in a round hole. Call me old, but don’t put ai in my ide. My ide was made for a human, not an ai. For the established players for sure it makes sense since they alrea…

My IDE has nicer tooling for things like diffs, and has all of my LSP's configured which the harness can utilize

Re: SpaceX says it has agreement to acquire Cursor for $60B

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Guess I'll be looking for a replacement for Cursor now... Anyone have recommendations? I like the plan/agent mode and the fact that it's an IDE, so I can use it in the traditional way as well as by yapping with a bunch of agents. Also the Cursor rules I've curated and they do their job well.

Yep this was the moment to finally remember to cancel my cursor subscription. I find it unconscionable to do business with someone who would do business with Elon.

>I find it unconscionable to do business with someone who would do business with Elon.

Just curious, why do you hate elon so much?

Re: SpaceX says it has agreement to acquire Cursor for $60B

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xAI needs a dev tool to compete with Codex and Claude Code. Cursor needs their own 1st party backend model. Sounds like a match made in heaven.

Not quite first party, but composer 2 is far superior to grok for coding. Unless you're eluding to them using SpaceX infra to train their own model vs. using grok

If they're the same company then Grok becomes first party to Cursor.

Re: SpaceX says it has agreement to acquire Cursor for $60B

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API rates are the real rates. Subscription costs are the "first hit is free" subsidized pricing.

They’re not the “real rates”, they’re the rates that are being charged for API use. API reportedly has a margin of profit You also neglect that products like Cursor run on two margins, their own plus the API provider’s. That’s always going to come at a premium

Yes, the rates with a margin of profit are the real rates.

The rates without a margin of profit (or with a negative one) are not real.

Re: SpaceX says it has agreement to acquire Cursor for $60B

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Sounds like playful comments people do about nymphomaniacs. Sure nobody would mind being the wealthiest man in the world without the downsides. Look at the guy. He's not just clueless, he's actually totally lost. Do you know how many kids he has and how many broke all contact with him, the wealthiest man in the World? Does this look like an enviable situation?

As far as I know of his fourteen children only one has broken contact.

1/14 isn't a bad ratio... except when we are talking of children, any of those numbers is terrible.

But in this specific context it's even crazier. It's one think to break contact with a parent but I think it's hard to imagine doing so when said parent is extremely rich (just because of both the privilege it gives, but also the risk of reprimand), even more so when they are the richest person on Earth.

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